Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

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  1. Kingsama

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    To me this would seem crazy, but I feel largely the same way. Round about the build up to End Game it slowly dawned on me that the MCU had surpassed Star Wars and I was genuinely more interested and excited about finding out what end awaited Cap than I was Rey. It was clear from TFA there was no plan in place and TLJ reenforced the make it up on the fly as a plan. Now don't get me wrong. I love the OT, and I will watch Mando 2 and get around to the new season of Clone Wars, but I never thought there would be a day where my emotional response to SW was "meh, if I have free time I guess I'll watch it".

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    Good god, WTF, are they trolling us?

    On another note, I really enjoyed the first 2 episodes of the Clone Wars season 7. Feels like SW, feels like Lucas and Filoni, and compared to how the show looked many years back now, it looks pretty amazing. Like as good as that art style possibly can, it’s so clean, I was surprised actually.
     
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    Interesting posts, and quite telling. As a kid whose first movie highlights were Star Wars, who loved the toys and the merchandise Star Wars was a significant and cherished part of my childhood. I was a major fan/collector of Marvel comics for about six years from the age of seven, being aware of Marvel and DC in various forms.

    I watched the last Star Wars film. I liked the set pieces, the sound effects of the ships were nice and familiar. Some of the characters were likable but I could not really feel anything for them. The Emperor came on, fantastic I thought. But the plot. The plot. It was convoluted, ridiculous and no tension was created as an ending was shoe-horned to let the good guys win. C3PO lost his memory "who are these people?" , Chewbacca seemed like Patty Hearst having been kidnapped by the Symbionese liberation army "who are these people?". Lando Carrissian came back into the picture like your drunk uncle looking for a loan laughing on the outside but crying on the inside as he wonders after drinking his colt 45 "who are these people?" I thought some of the parts were good but I did not care. Zombie Carrie Fisher kept popping up on the screen, so did Han Solo "Who are these people?" they wondered as they looked out for Rick Grimes.

    Marvel on the other hand, though not a hundred percent in success has made me feel things at the right moment. And among other things it is they have done the right things by there characters. Captain America, is the heart of that universe. He has seen war crimes, corruption betrayl, but he still believes in the right things to do. In an era of Anti-heroes Captain America is the moral compass that points true. He is who we wish we could be, even though we can't be. Spider man was our spiderman, if you have ever read a comic you see him in the last two spiderman movies in his actions and the way he moves, in the way he cracks wise when fighting. It is keeping true to characters and making them vibrant that sells me these movies. When they have a different Ned or MJ in spiderman it does not matter as they synch around those core characters. Tony Stark is actually better in the films than in the comic books, the changes make him more likable and charming but still make him complex enough. I think that is why Marvel works (for me) and why I have lost interest in Star Wars. Star Wars messed up the main characters. They killed off favorites for cheap heat and created characters that were ok but I did not attract me despite their goading me to like them. Maybe that is why I liked the stand alone Rogue 1 so much, it did not mess with the characters I liked.
     
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    I'm 41. My first memory of seeing a movie in the theater was Return of the Jedi. When I was a kid, we had a pirated copy of all three Star Wars movies on VHS. Parts of the tape got worn out I watched them so much. I read probably 10-15 books in the old EU. Before The Last Jedi, I had read 5-6 books from Disney's new EU. Now? I just don't care. I haven't watched Clone Wars yet. I think about it, and there is zero urgency. Star Wars as a whole doesn't matter to me anymore. The only "enjoyment" I get out of Star Wars these days is when they do something so dumb (like the tweets to fill in plot holes months later), I do get a nice laugh.
     
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    I needed this, I laughed so hard at their “starring” names.



    Also, this movie literally gets worse by the day, the novel and extra materials continue to make it worse somehow

     
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    https://screenrant.com/star-wars-ri...dium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=SR-FB-P

    Ok, one, they actually put the words “tiny, toddler rage” onto the page and approved it. Second, ok, so Luke force projected to tell Ben he couldn’t save him in TLJ, but then as a force ghost told Leia her final act needed to be reaching out through the force to save Ben. Riiiiight. This trilogy is dead and buried and they somehow managed to dig up the corpse and shoot it.

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    The way you feel is how so many of us felt after The Last Jedi, and how a small portion of the fandom felt after Force Awakens. Star Wars is dead to a lot of people. I don't know if Lucasfilm much cares. They are growing new fans and training them not to care about things like plot holes, character assassinations, etc. The Disney-hype machine is real. The live action Aladdin movie was mediocre at best, but still pushed it's way to a billion dollars. Disney knows they can push the short attention spans of the target demographic into the theaters for a movie using their unparalleled marketing surges, make their billion, and sell toys to the little kids that don't know any better. They don't care about people who have love for an IP. They don't care whatsoever about the old Star Wars fans.
     
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    So the Holiday Special is one of George Lucas's most loathed creations. He went out of his way to try and erase it from history. So Disney decides they want to bring attention to it and make a sequel? If the movies weren't proof enough the new Lucasfilm hates George, this should nail the point home. And of course one of the story lines will be Rey teaching a young Luke about the force. Because Rey is the greatest thing in the history of things.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/ente...day-special-updates-yuletide-miss/3359104001/
     
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    John Boyega unloads on Star Wars and acknowledges pretty much what the critics were saying all along about Disney and their "diversity" hiring.

    https://ew.com/movies/john-boyega-v...cantly increasing,new interview in British GQ

    So we have Boyega constantly talking smack, Daisy Ridley can't get work. Oscar Issac has point blank said he's done with it. But yeah. It was just a small toxic minority that was causing all the problems. Star Wars has never been healthier. :wasntme:

    Star Wars is dead.
     
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    It’s not fully dead,

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    it’ll be fine again when Kennedy is gone. Favreau, Filoni, and even Lucas are rumored to be in charge right now so they can still turn stuff around. But yes, after TROS I hate the sequel trilogy, I sold my Blu-rays and it’s not canon for me, it’s nonsense. Hopefully they fix it in some way going forward, retcon in books or shows, ignoring it, whatever. Was genius of them to base an entire theme park land on these crap movies though, real smart move by Kennedy on that one instead of letting it be Tatooine as was the original plan according to leaks.
     
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    I honestly already forgot how immensely disappointing Episode 9 was. No desire to watch the sequel trilogy ever again. I think after GoT, I’m just numb to having my hype crushed.

    At least we got Mandalorian Season 2 starting in less than 2 months.
     
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    I agree. Sequel trilogy is just a hot mess all the way around. I just pretend that Disney Star Wars is the last year of the clone wars, the Mandalorian and Rogue One. Solo was aight. 7, 8, 9 as a trilogy, well I'll let Kobe say it :Kobepuking:and Metta say this: :Bangbrick4:
     
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    Looks good. Too bad we know the story ends up at Episode 9
     
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    I’m not so sure Episode 9 and the entire sequel trilogy don’t eventually become non-canon, just saying. But even if they don’t, I’m just glad to have actual Star Wars I still enjoy and that watching the trailer for brings a smile to my face. SW is in disarray right now, but it’s also a huge property to Disney, so here’s hoping Favreau, Filoni, and whoever else is in charge starts to right the ship. Hopefully the new Disney CEO doesn’t play is safe like Iger did too by throwing our Lucas’ story treatments and saying to just make a safe reboot that will make a billion dollars. And hopefully Kathleen Kennedy gets no say in what’s going on right now, like she doesn’t touch the Obi-Wan series and gets no chance to try to s*** on yet another legacy character.
     
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    I would hope and pray they do. Disney has made the money they are going to make on them. The toys aren't selling. Star Wars merchandising is basically Baby Yoda at this point. Force Awakens toys did well, but that was before they lost half the fan base with The Last Jedi and then half of what was left after The Rise of Skywalker. So ditching them using The World Between Worlds isn't going to financially hurt them at all. If anything it can allow them to "double dip" by making a new sequel trilogy using George Lucas's treatments.

    I actually think Season 2 of the Mandalorian will be very telling as to the future of the Disney Trilogy (I refuse to call it the sequel trilogy since it isn't a sequel to real Star Wars). If they include stuff in the Mandalorian Season 2 that ties directly into the Fan Fiction Trilogy, then I think that will mean they are keeping it. Ahsoka is in this season. She has been to The World Between Worlds. If they use Mandalorian Season 2 to retcon the Disney Trilogy into it's own timeline, I would kiss Jon Favreau on the mouth if I ever saw him. :D
     
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    Great breakdown of TROS by a professional editor that focuses on character arc and development.



    Its older, but it showed up in my feed.
     
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    The headline in this isn't the interesting part. It's a paragraph buried 7 paragraphs down.

    https://deadline.com/2020/11/the-ma...sting-disney-plus-sophie-thatcher-1234609860/

    Here we go. Star Wars multiverse. Get ready for the Sequel Trilogy to maybe not be retconned out of existence, but at least relegated to it's own timeline where we can hopefully have a better story going forward.
     
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