2015 Nba Draft Discussion: Russell, Nance Jr., Brown

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  1. Savory Griddles

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    I'm wondering if we may be trying to figure out who Orlando wants at 27 to maybe package that and even Tarik Black to pull off a sign and trade for Tobias Harris. He will receive a max offer this offseason with the cap jump coming. If Orlando knows they won't match (which I wouldn't blame them with potentially Aaron Gordon and WCS playing the 3 and 4 for them in the future), Black plus Rashad Vaughn (our 27th pick)...throw in 3 million cash, that's a decent haul for Orlando for a player they may be letting walk for nothing. If I'm the Lakers and Harris wants to come here, I go to Orlando and offer Black, who we take at 27 and cash for a sign and trade to get us our sf of the future. I think the security of knowing he's ours is worth giving them up prematurely rather than waiting with your fingers crossed for 3 days. Okafor/Randle/Harris is probably the most promising young frontcourt in the league. Clarkson can play either guard spot...if I'm the rest of the league, I'd be pissed the Lakers turned two bad seasons into a young nucleus that could win for years. We'd also still have 10 million to fill out the roster. 10 million might be enough for us to resign Lin and Davis. Davis at 6 and Lin at 4?

    We could potentially have

    Okafor/Davis
    Randle/Davis
    Harris/Swaggy
    ?/Swaggy
    Clarkson/Lin

    going into the 2016 offseason and over 40 million in cap space to chase free agents (assuming we have to sign Clarkson to 5 million under the Arenas Provision).
     
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    holmes intrigues me. glad they're taking a look.
     
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    Oh wow, now I know why you put this up. LOL. Missed you coming with the "nose" line before I did. HA! So sue me, and I'll counter sue.... it's what we do in CA. [​IMG]
     
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    Great minds... :cool:
     
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    I take that to mean most NBA ready guy at 2. Welcome to LA, Okafor.
     
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    Edit; Sorry, JSM. I didn't notice you posted until I got on my computer.
     
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    Haha. Seriously. Minnesota or LA? Tough call.
     
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    I find it incredibly fitting and amusing that this season, where the topic of tanking (and in Philadelphia and NY's case, pretty openly tanking) has been at the forefront of the conversation league wide, that the top guys who everyone was doing this for may themselves have a "tankathon" to avoid going #1.
     
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    Still rather go to Minn than Philly. If I were them I'd stop trying to tank lest they fall to 3.
     
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    Any of you think that we will use our two picks 27 and 34 as trade baits for vet/s? We only have room for one rookie this year, imo. I think we need to balance our very young roster with a max player and trade for contributors. BS is not a nurturer and having so many rookies, the team will be destroyed by older and more experienced teams.
     
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    Been looking at a bunch of draft sites to see mocks. Here's what I've found so far...

    #2 Pick: Okafor
    Consensus: Okafor 12/13
    Consensus Position: BIG 13/13
    -Okafor was the consensus pick, and big was the consensus (indeed unanimous) position.

    Taking Okafor makes us look like this right off the bat:
    Clarkson/
    Kobe/
    Young/
    Randle/Kelly
    Okafor/

    #27 Pick: WING or PG
    Terry Rozier, PG, Louisville
    Terry Rozier, PG, Louisville
    Delon Wright, PG, Utah
    Delon Wright, PG, Utah

    Pat Connaughton, SG, UND
    Rashad Vaughn, SG, UNLV
    Justin Anderson, SF, Virginia
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, SF, Arizona
    Jordan Mickey, SF, LSU

    Jarell Martin, PF, LSU
    Jarell Martin, PF, LSU
    Mouhammadou Jaiteh, F/C, France

    Consensus: Wright (PG), Rozier (PG), or Martin (PF)
    Consensus Position: Wing 5/12
    -I'm not excited about the players showing up most often. I could live with Delon Wright, but I'd prefer to see us take a wing if there's a good one available or Robert Upshaw.

    Clarkson/Delon Wright
    Kobe/
    Young/
    Randle/Kelly
    Okafor/

    OR

    Clarkson/
    Kobe/
    Young/WING (RHJ?)
    Randle/Kelly
    Okafor/

    OR

    Clarkson/
    Kobe/
    Young/
    Randle/Kelly
    Okafor/Upshaw


    #34 Pick: Wide Open
    Rakeem Christmas, PF/C, Syracuse
    Jarell Martin, PF, LSU
    Dakari Johnson, C, Kentucky
    Olivier Hanlan, PG/SG, BC
    Jordan Mickey, PF, LSU
    Christian Wood, PF, UNLV
    Consensus: Mickey 2/6
    Consensus Position: PF 4/6
    -People have us taking a big here, and I suppose we might. If we didn't grab Upshaw previously and he's available, we need to grab him here. Otherwise, we have these three scenarios going.

    Scenario A
    Clarkson/Delon Wright
    Kobe/
    Young/
    Randle/(Holmes)/Kelly
    Okafor/
    --We could add a wing here or Richaun Holmes. Neither addition would make much difference in terms of our FA plans. Wing or Love, even if we're loading up at PF.

    OR

    Scenario B
    Clarkson/
    Kobe/(Fuzaro/Luwawu)
    Young/WING (RHJ)
    Randle/Kelly
    Okafor/
    --Here we can afford to take a Guard or a Big. I'd be okay with Timothe Luwawu or Danilo Fuzaro from what I've read on them, and I'm still a fan of Holmes if we go that way.

    OR

    Clarkson/
    Kobe/(Luwawu)
    Young/
    Randle/Kelly
    Okafor/Upshaw
    --In this scenario, it should be a guard or wing - and I like Timothe Luwawu for defense, but I'll throw out another name - Pat Connaughton - for shooting.

    Now, my favorite scenario is the last one.
    Clarkson/
    Kobe/(Luwawu/Connaughton)
    Young/
    Randle/Kelly
    Okafor/Upshaw
     
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    This dude seems not to be a basketball player. A great athlete though.
     
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    Yo t- we've actually got Black and Brown under contract as well.

    Our default setting right now is:

    Clarkson/
    Bryant/Brown
    Young
    Randle/Kelly
    Black

    If we do the unlikely and keep all three picks, I'm hoping for:

    #2- Okafor
    #27- Delon Wright
    #34- Christmas or D. Johnson

    I know Wright is a PG, but I think it's crazy he's so low at DE. He's far from perfect, but if we get him that late in the draft, we end winning this draft in a landslide. Then at the end we need our end-of-the-bench big man replacement. There's always big goons left in the 2nd round and that's where I love to go shopping for big men. Christmas isn't a big man, but he's really athletic and I think he be a Thomas Robinson type of guy in a year or two. Barring that there's the obvious Dakari Johnson who was a highly touted high school recruit. He's 7 feet tall, got a wide body, and is basically a perfect 3rd big rotation guy in the NBA.

    I doubt we're keeping all three players though. I think we're probably moving the last two attached to either Hill or Young in order to bring in some veteran players.
     

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