Lakers Cool On Lucrative Offer To Rondo ( Ding )

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by therealdeal, Apr 28, 2015.

  1. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,719
    Likes Received:
    61,050
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    (I think) (at the moment) I'm down for a largely discounted Rondo on a 1 + 1 with the 2nd being team option ($6 & 6?). If we have landed a good BIG (center) in the draft or free agency. Including Love if he can spell at the 5 when needed. We have a number of bigs that can do that. Then we need one good BIG rim protector. But Rondo would have to work with Nash or some shooting coach, not negotiable, to get his damn stroke up and especially FTs. With the understanding that if he doesn't it directly impacts his playing time and especially in crunch time. Assuming his back or anything else is not a problem. Surely don't need that again.
     
  2. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah, this maybe all be moot; if the Lakers fall in-love with Russell and/or Mudiay, they'll be no reason to bring him on board. There might even be discussion to bring Lin back, IMO. All option are on the table right now. We narrow down those options depending on who we draft or trade the pick for, and we'll go into free agency going after Kevin Love and LMA. It's what we do...whether or not that involves Rondo, we'll have to wait and see.
     
    lakerjones, therealdeal and tada like this.
  3. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Imagine if we got both Rondo and DeAndre. What is the plural form of hack-a-shaq?
     
  4. thkthebest

    thkthebest Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,679
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Hack a pack? Lol.
     
  5. tada

    tada - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    8,535
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    :rofl:
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  6. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah I think you and @lakerjones have the feel of it.

    The first step is the draft. I'm more intrigued by Mudiay than Russell because right off the bat Mudiay has the body for the NBA, but if we picked either of them then there's basically no reason at all to target Rondo. We're going to have a bunch of bodies at that spot anyway, we might as well look elsewhere. Rondo only makes sense if we take a wing or a big man.

    A Mudiay/Clarkson back-court is really really intriguing to me. Both are capable of getting to the rim any time they want. The main difference is Mudiay is looking to pass while Clarkson is looking to finish. I think the two of them could be the young bodies we need flying around defensively too.

    Any who we'll all just have to wait and see. The only thing I took from this is that the FO has taken an enormous step back on the Rondo train. I like that. Even if we DO sign Rondo it won't be for a big, lucrative deal so that's what's most important.
     
  7. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,528
    Likes Received:
    76,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    do the kings have any cap space? they wanted rondo before, and I think he could be a missing ingredient to a respectable team there.

    or he and cousins might attempt to murder one another in the other's sleep.

    that could happen too.
     
  8. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    This is the only circumstance where I would be just fine with bringing in Rondo. I have to give it to Jim Buss here for not wanting Rondo now that he has clearly shown inconsistency and injury prone. Mitch i'm sure means well, but needs to come to his senses if he really is the one still willing to give Rondo a shot.

    All in all after reading this article I do feel a lot better about this situation because it basically implies that the Lakers want to spend money on other players first but would still be willing to sign Rondo if its a bargain and if they can minimize the long term risk. Again, I still don't want Rondo at all because of Clarkson's development, but I could live with it just being a 1 year deal.
     
  9. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    This is great! I was spitting out my dinner when I saw this
     
  10. escobar8

    escobar8 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    230
    Likes Received:
    285
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    Teacher
    Location:
    Croatia
    Offline
    Lets be clear i had huge amount of respect to rondo...now just lil bit less...
    He is warrior to the core (remember that elbow vs miami) and dude would allways elevate his game in play offs...
    But now he is injury prone and still cant shoot...his mental state is so bad,he spreads poison atmosphere around him and is locker cancer...i dont know,did he develope this mentality couse injury or couse bos falled to losing culture again since kg,ray,pp left...
    I know he could change again...but i dont think LA is right situation for him...
    He would be under the microscope since arriving and i dont think he could bare the presure...
    I am sorry but he looks like new iverson case...
    Botomline...i respect him but i dont want him neither for very cheap...i would even take marcus banks over him right now...
     
  11. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,719
    Likes Received:
    61,050
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    ^^^ HA! Wherever Marcus Banks is now I'm sure he smiled.
     
  12. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,528
    Likes Received:
    76,752
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i think the max ship sailed long ago for rondo, so now it's more about whether you want him at all. whatever price he fetches won't be a franchise killer.

    i could see arguments against him at any price given the lakers' situation. but to me, it depends heavily on what happens with the draft pick. do they keep it? if so, do they trade it? if they trade it for veteran help, i think signing rondo makes more sense.
     
  13. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,812
    Likes Received:
    22,748
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    I hope "cool on lucrative offer" is code for no way, no how, no matter what.
     
  14. johnnyboy

    johnnyboy - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,317
    Likes Received:
    1,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Im Satoshi Nakamoto
    Location:
    Orange County
    Offline
    Let clarkson grow, say no to rondo
     
  15. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    75,989
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    The Mavs players apparently voted to not give Rondo a playoff share. This is not a guy I want on my team, just please no.
     
  16. Alcindor

    Alcindor - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    2,659
    Likes Received:
    5,955
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga
    Offline
    If we're going to play along with pushing Rondo's price down, the FO should send a message that they are really looking at other options. Not "lukewarm".

    I've been against picking up Rondo since we started talking about him in the Rondo trade thread months ago but not for the new reasons that have surfaced. I didn't want him because he's injury prone and his scoring game is reliant on athleticism. By the time Rondo stepped on the floor for us in a real game he'd be a few months off of 30 years old. Not ancient but still the beginning of North of where you want to be with those characteristics. And I am sick of old stars getting injured for long periods ;)

    Adding in the attitude problems (to the point where Carlisle publicly says he couldn't see him back, that's really bad.) and the NBA game moving away from guards with no jump shot it only heightens the reasons to not bring him in.

    That all said if they succeed in getting a bargain deal with team option after this year it could be worth exploring. If Kobe is willing to play off ball a whole lot. But if we bring in a lot of new guys to start building in a different direction then Rondo could simply be wasting time, getting us through Kobe's last year with a side kick to help liven things up.
     
  17. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,289
    Likes Received:
    18,676
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Wow... it's one thing for a coach to hate a player, but if the players hate him too, to that extent, that says a lot
     
    ElginTheGreat likes this.
  18. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,152
    Likes Received:
    22,367
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    If that's true, it shouldn't be, "The Lakers have cooled on Rondo." It should be, "The Lakers won't even take a meeting with him when free agency begins."

    If we keep that pick, we would have 3 very talented youngsters that we shouldn't allow in the same room with him unless it's on the court beating his butt. Also if we keep the pick, we would be well on our way to building a nice foundation. We wouldn't need to take a desperate swing like that.We'd just need to continue to follow the gameplan. Add a big if we draft a sf. Add a sf if we draft a big. Then next offseason make a huge run at Durant and DeRozan, maybe even Conely.

    Let's say Rondo didn't have a bad attitude. His career arc is still a horrible fit for this team. He has maybe two decent seasons left if he can manage not to get hurt. By that point he will be in sharp decline and zero jumpshot to offset his loss of athleticism. He would be absolutely worthless to us even if he was the NBA Sportsman of the Year.
     
    JSM likes this.
  19. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    11,014
    Likes Received:
    30,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'll be waiting for everyone to go full meltdown mode after we sign Rondo.
     
  20. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,633
    Likes Received:
    15,961
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    Well, maybe this will be the exact opposite of the Nash/Dwight signing ;). We were all high on them...
     

Share This Page