2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. KareemtheGreat33

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    It's the Bullets, so
     
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    If we don’t get any big FAs, and miss out on trading for AD, I wouldn’t mind spending on a B+ FA and a couple B- FAs if we could get Beal for 4+kuz+2021 1st.

    Lonzo/Seth
    Beal/Hart
    Ingram/Green
    Lebron/Wagner
    Vuce/Javale

    If KD leaves, bring on GSW!!
     
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    I'd do the 4th. pick plus fillers for Beal (No Zo or BI). I think a backcourt of Zo and Beale works. Beale operates like Klay (doesn't need the ball in his hands long) Just do not want to see any more of LeBron as the point playing 25' - 30' from the bucket. Hoping Vogel can get Bron to commit to playing the 4 and dominating there....prime Karl Malone. From a cap standpoint you can sign a couple of 3 point snipers and a stout floor spacing PF/C (why did we let Lopez go ???) with a rim runner.

    Zo/Caruso/Curry
    Beale/Bullock or Hart
    BI/Kuzma
    LBJ/Kuzma/Williams
    Lopez or Cousins/McGee or Noel

    This team can make a deep run.....
     
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    Mr. Rambis - Rookie - LB Verified Insider

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    Update on the consulting situation:

    Went into the office today but for the most part, I was held out of all discussions pertaining to the Laker-AEG relationship and how that's going to proceed (which makes sense, as I have nothing to do with this). I got a little more clarity though. Apparently, when the NBA threatens your ownership stake, it's a serious matter. I also heard from a colleague that Phil is not pleased with the Laker guys right now for throwing AEG under the bus. They're going to try to find some common ground and then proceed with the league from there. I suspect when that happens, I'll get back in the loop.

    On a different note, I did manage to get a little more info on the Anthony Davis side of things. I'll share in the other thread right now.

    -Mr. Rambis
     
  5. JSM

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    It is. But their take on if GS isn't serious with him the second free agency starts, it cracks open the door for us. And their whole segment was only a thing because Shaq came out yesterday and said Klay should be our #1 target.

    To me the more interesting, less obvious part of that segment was Screaming A's updates on who's doing what:
    Kyrie- leaning towards Nets, as a handful of others are reporting. Then he'll try to convince KD to join.
    Kemba- waiting to see what Kyrie is doing. If Knicks are open, he'll be interested in going there.
    Kawhi- between Raptors and Clipps, although Knicks believe they have an outside chance.
    Butler-6ers, Nets, Clipps, and Lakers.

    Now my concern is we have one shot to get someone and need to be tactical as f*** about it. Bron can only be at one place when FA starts. Front office needs to be realistic and only send him somewhere they're certain that he'll leave with a signature. I think that's Butler. Outside of Philly, he's no one's first choice. But if we're the first one there and since the Philly marriage wasn't ideal, I think we have a good shot.

    We also need to seal the deal with AD before free agency. Deal done in principle during draft week and push it through after the signing. But the FA target, who ever it is, will be much more inclined to sign with AD on board.

    AD
    Bron
    Butler
    One of the kids

    That'll work.
     
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    i want klay badly...we need pops to consult as to our chances....i think if dad says we have a shot we need to prioritize our effort on klay, im indifferent on butler, if he feels slighted by us reaching for klay 1st so be it
     
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    Or. We could trade all the kids and a few picks for Chris Paul, then sign Melo and Tyson Chandler.
     
  8. LaVarBallsDad

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    My preferred scenario...
     
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    Right ... Lol

    I think the Lakers position should be LeBron, Zo, and BI are our core and that is who we are moving forward with. Option #1 would be to max Khawi or Klay only and keep the team intact. Option #2 would be a Sign and Trade giving up picks and filler (#4 pick this year, future 1st with fillers for Beal, Butler, or Capela) and keep the team largely intact. I love Butler's game ... but would not pay max money. Interestingly the wild card to me is Mo Wagner. We are still short a floor spacing big, wish Luke would have given Mo more run last year but he could be an option.
     
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    i'm late, but why is everyone assuming beal's available? if i'm washington, he's not for sale unless you bowl me over. he's under contract through 2021 and hasn't demanded out yet.

    maybe ingram and the 4th gets them to reconsider, but still, he's young and they supposedly really like him as a long-term cornerstone. the wall contract/injury is an absolute killer, but their books are totally clean aside from them come 2021.

    there's been no word he's available is my point, other than the press speculating that the lakers want him when they whiff on everyone else. and duh.
     
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    Beal may be available due to Wall's contract who is unavailable until 2020-2021 and owed 160MM over the next 4 years. They may want to shed salary and get additional picks to start a rebuild.
     
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    You’re most likely right here, the assumption has been that the Wizards have tried this Beal/Wall thing for years now and it isn’t working, so they need to start over. Since Wall’s contract is not movable, the media has assumed the only way for them to start over is to trade Beal. None of that has ever come out of Washington though, it has always come from outside, he doesn’t really seem available, unless like you say, some team comes to them with some great offer for him.
     
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    yeah, i feel like the vultures are circling and washington's all:


    eh, they'll be plenty bad without having to give up beal. but in two summers, they can use cap space to give beal a huge extension (like houston's done with harden), then start with him in place and a clean slate.

    we've seen how hard it is to even get beal-level talent. i don't think you move him unless he demands it.
     
  14. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    Here we go...



    BK sheds about 15m in salary. The Ky rumors will be heating up. Also with this move, they technically can keep DLo's cap hold on the books and still offer close to the max for KD. They already had enough for a 30% max player like Kyrie.
     
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    Damn. Either Kyrie convinced someone to join him, they're confident he can, or they're wanting to keep Russell.

    Hawks having 3 top 20 picks isn't bad on the asset front either.
     
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    Hey look, a team being creative in clearing up cap instead of just using placeholders every year.
     
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    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    I know not everyone was a fan of the move but it did get us Bron. Crabbe was an expiring 18.5m contract. Mozgov was a 3yr 48m deal. Rob as our cap guy should have been more clever in manuevering our cap space (see Zu & Jules also)...but we are so much better off with our books now than we were 2 years ago.

    All that being said, ATL is for sure moving up with the 8/10/17. I wonder if it's us or the Cavs at 5. I know it's a new FO, but the Pels were pick hungry in an AD trade.
     
  19. JSM

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    They've got 3 picks in the top half of each round. They'll definitely be very active on draft night.



    At the very least, I'd like for us to buy one of those 2nd rounders, where our scouting department thrives.
     
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    I'm with you J...they gave up Prince who is with CAA, just like DLo...so maybe there is something there where DLo gifts BK a discounted contract.

    Also ATL had Spellman and accordimg to Baxter's article he was the guy or scouts wanted....maybe he gets thrown in as part of a package for the 4th.

    If Griff isn't too enthralled with talent at the 4th, then maybe he's interested in 1st round pickS (like the previous NO FO was). If we pick up 8/10/17, package Zo or BI, with Kuz... that's a pretty decent haul for the Pels.
     
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