Official Whine, Moan, Complain Thread 19/20-CLOSED "WE CHAMPS!"

No Moe Wagner

 

What we need is Byron back

 

But it's no better than when he left lol. All of this could still apply today.

 

No PC here. Had to show you it die so I can beat a freshly dead horse.



Who didn't f****** know besides Magic and Rob, Mintz notwithstanding, that they should have made Randle feel wanted and signed him for the money they gave KCP. Clear it with Lebron first of course and explain logically to him why it's going to be to his great benefit to bring back Randle's muscle inside, his speed and strength to guard reasonably well the biggest centers in the league yet switch out on guards capably. We looked tiny except for Bron and Zu and McGee's height ...... as a roster compared to Toronto's key players. They were all buff compared to our guys. And they like lots of teams have a big a** center, in this case off the bench. I honestly doubt Randle would have gotten punked by Ibaka anywhere near this bad. Gimme that stick.



Sell him Magic and have Rob do some kind of great plan to bring him back but yet keep the money for the big FA. 1 and 1 with a Team option. Magic could have sold it somehow if the FO had ever gotten around to mentioning his name along with the other key players and making him feel wanted there. He sure busted his a** when they asked for the effort.

 

No idea what Luke was waiting on tonight. All of his moves, I was like....

 

"Come to our team because we have Lebron" is no longer a selling point. In fact, it might be a detriment to us signing big name free agents.

Since we got him locked in for 4 years, I'm trading him to Toronto for Kawhi and moving on as quickly as possible. If Kawhi doesn't sign, we still have a great young core, 2 max spots, and some type of asset back to trade Lebron in order to match salaries.

It was shocking how much better we looked with him off of the floor. Let's see if that becomes a trend, or if it was a one off.

 

Looking objectively at it, IMO, I have no expectation of him playing like playoff LeBron all the regular season games for the four years of his contract. There's just no way. But this is risky business with regard to what sirron is saying above about FAs looking at what he has left and asking themselves if they want to be 2nd billing or slightly less than first billing to him for those remaining years. If he doesn't look by the end of the year like he still has it, and we didn't at least make the playoffs this could develop into a problem.

 

come on bro....thats not happening, be realistic. I have no feelings (good/bad) towards James but at least he came unlike PG and probably Leonard toying with us

 

I went back and watched all the minutes Lebron played, and for some reason, it seemed like after the opening play they quit moving on offense.

No movement, no cutting, not setting good screens for each other, and not aggressively taking the open shot.

I am rethinking why Lebron looked so average tonight. Toronto has a solid game plan, packed the paint on us, knew we don’t have great outside shooting, and that we can be run on. They took full advantage of our weaknesses, and us coming off of a back to back were a step slow.

Our coaching staff is doing a poor job managing lineups and talent, but none is more poorly managed than Lebron. I feel like we have AAU coaches out there. Hopefully they fix it. A Ferrari isn’t meant to be driven as a 4x4. It doesn’t work. It won’t be affective.

 

After the opening play you saw no cutting or movement from anyone else. Seriously. Hyperbole much?

I'm not saying there was enough, certainly never seems to be yet, but to say nothing after one play is over the top. Not what I saw.

 

Luke, why you no start Z..oh
Luke, why you no bench KC...oh
Luke, why you no bench Bron when he doesn't play any defe...oh

Luke, why you no start Hart...Nailed it!

#StrtHart

 

When I said no, I should have said “very little”

Slight exaggeration for effect

 

I was about to say everyone was going overboard with the Lebron stuff, but this is the polar opposite and just as bad.

 

So this loss was stupid. No defense. No nothing. I think all of us on this board could of made it more competitive. We seem to always allow players to get career highs against us in some form.

Don’t even really know what to say. What can be said. Gotta wait to next game and see if we can bounce back.

 

All I can say is....