President Trump

Take it for what you will

 

I wouldn’t say they try to make him look bad, he does that on his own, what they do is only focus on it and maginify it, report almost nothing positive about him. I guess it’s in part to balance Fox News, the complete opposite who goes out of their way to make excuses for Trump and say he can do no wrong. It’s a shame there’s no real middle ground unbiased news station as an alternative to both of those. Well, I guess their might be some publications and papers that are, but they come across as anti Trump too, because the man sucks.

 

Actually I'd say CNN was supposed to be that middle ground, but they turned their back on that during the election. FOX is more a reflection of MSNBC which is hilariously the opposite of FOX news, but gets much less of the shaming. I'm actually more disappointed in CNN because I'd been using them as my "neutral" news source up until the campaigns started. Now they're as much a joke as any other station.

I use AP and Reuters, but even they can't help but rag on Trump most of the time. Like you said, he's an immature, tactless, moron and he brings almost all of this on himself. The small amount of credit due to him for the economic upturn will never outweigh his social ineptitudes to the greater population. Even if everything he does on paper succeeds, the loud, socially conscious among us will still hate him. The sad part is so few people are willing to listen to Trump supporters in social media that they're just continuing to live life in the rift that was caused during the election cycle.

There are millions of completely rational people that voted for Trump and just want their values and their lives to be heard, but they're drowned out by the loud and stupid voices of people on both sides of the fence shouting idiotically at the other with no regard for humanity. As long as people are shunned for supporting Trump, those Trump supporters will exist and they'll keep voting in ways that the social media crowd cannot and will not understand. Growth comes from learning and talking to each other and it's something most people just won't do anymore.

/rant.

 

I actually do think he has positively affected the economy and at this point it's not truly debatable. We're hitting new highs every week it seems like. That being said, he hasn't created jobs and this is obviously at least part of a bubble so it could be quite short lived, but he still deserves some outside credit for where we are today. if the bubble pops and we all go broke tomorrow, I'll give him the blame too.

As for why he was elected and the people who thought Trump was their voice: it's the same exact people that thought Obama was their voice. Trump ran on a campaign targeting the disenfranchised and unemployed talking about "hope" and bringing jobs back to America. The only difference is Obama won on class and Trump won off the angry population that wants to go back to work and felt betrayed by the previous regime that did little to bring jobs to America.

They were obviously fooled and, like Obama found out, creating middle class jobs is not as easy as it sounds. Those towns were built on manufacturing and manufacturing is a dying industry in America. The true growth should happen in education and growing alternative energy sources/innovation. But those places don't want those jobs. They want manufacturing jobs that simply won't exist. Sure we're making a little more stuff in America these days, but not the same as we used to and I doubt we'll ever reach those heights again.

In my opinion it starts with education. We need to reinvest in educating the children of this country, get them excited about learning again. Once we revitalize education and reform the broken college system, we can encourage growth in innovation and invention in science and engineering. Those are the fields of the future for America and right now they're woefully underappreciated.

You see not every Trump supporter is a white racist. There's millions that just want to work and they were lead to believe that Trump would help, not altruistically but because they figured he'd try to help businesses (yes including his own). They thought Trump would lower taxes and let Americans have more of their money. They didn't vote for him because they hated minorities or loved how obviously sexist Trump is. I haven't met many people who genuinely like Trump, but he was viewed as someone who could help and of course Hillary was herself quite a monster. Americans are not happy about Trump, but he may be the piece that finally catapults us back on track by giving the country a unified person to hate. And hopefully the few things he does right in his Presidency can stick around and the things he does wrong can be fixed.

/second rant.

 

No I didn't and that's quite impressive.

I believe there's a factor of "us against the world" involved as well. People who support(ed) Trump see the attacks coming from all sides and they feel a sort of obligation to come to his defense and support him. I think that's a big part of it.

But my point has always been that until we have discussions like this one, Trump support won't die. Those that do support him simply go quiet so they don't get ridiculed or abused. They'll keep their opinions to themselves. That's why 90% of polls had Hillary winning when so many voted for Trump. We've got to be more accepting of ideas instead of writing people off so quickly for association.

Except for racists, sexists, etc. Those people can just shut the hell up and rot somewhere.

 

Eh. I understand what this is well enough. I believe wholeheartedly that Trump has had a positive effect on the economy for whatever reason. I'm not giving him full credit for the economy looking better, just saying something about him has people spending money. What's interesting is I'm willing to bet a house that reports of Obama being responsible for this uptick will turn into Trump being responsible for the bubble pop. It is what it is. If I were a big stock trader, I'd be cashing out.

 

I have no love for her, but she's a slasher. She's the person you bring into a struggling company who ruthlessly cuts benefits and fires people in order to balance the books. I don't think she knows anything about actually changing the system though and that's what I'm looking for. Teaching kids on a fundamental level the importance of education and trying to develop a new age of institutions that are built to grow kids positively instead of putting them 30k+ (100k+ for masters/doctorates/etc) in debt and leaving them with no job.