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  1. Barnstable

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    What? Inconceivable!
     
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    Lots of issues in politics across the world. Corruption everywhere. When I was in Kenya, they actually cancelled the result of the presidential election because there was obvious fraud involved. They are redoing it, but the people have zero confidence there will be a different result.

    Where there is money, there is corruption. Period. But the Clinton's have been neck deep since they were kids. How are they not in jail is a good question.
     
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    ^^^ Snopes is not reliable and this is a great example of why.
     
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    What is your position? Are you saying we did not sell 20% of our Uranium to Russia while Hillary was Sec of State? Are you saying Hillary did not get money "donated" to the Clinton Foundation from Russia? Are you saying at that same time, Bill Clinton did not get $500,000 for a speech, from Russia? Are you saying Hillary simple "forgot" to disclose the donation to the Clinton Foundation from Russia?
     
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    I'm saying she had very little say in that deal. On what grounds would you have blocked the sale? She was in a position that happened to deal with Russians who were buying a majority share in a company. You're the last person I thought I'd see advocating for larger government. Don't you want a free market?
     
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    ^^ she was one of the voting members. She had influential power. How did she vote?

    Yes, I want small government and free market. I also want my Secretary of State to not accept kickbacks. I have a feeling you'd be singing a different tune if a different politician did this. She's corrupt. In every single thing she does.
     
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    I'd have no issue at all, in fact. Seems like projection if you ask me.. It's a business transaction. I'll ask again. On what grounds would you block this merger?
     
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    On the grounds that we don't want Russia having more Nukes. As someone other than Hillary, I'd block it on the grounds that she was profiting off it. And her husband. But I'm sure it's on the up and up. They reported the money like Obama instructed her to. Oh wait......
     
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    People with power and access to the best lawyers don't play the game by the same rules
     
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    "...found that the bulk of the $145 million came from Giustra. Guistra said he sold all of his stakes in Uranium One in the fall of 2007, "at least 18 months before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state" and three years before the Russian deal."

    "...the State Department was just one of nine government agencies that signed off on the transaction."

    You're letting your hatred for her cloud your reasoning. Fact is Russia is not an enemy of the U.S. It was also not sold to Russia, but a Russian company that was later obtained by their country. It was already owned by a non-U.S. entity, anyway.
     
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    So if Trump fires Mueller, should he be impeached?

    To me it's only a matter of time that Mueller gets the axe. On top of that, pardons are probably coming...
     
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    No idea if that's grounds for impeachment, but surely won't look good. I don't think he's gonna get pardoned. Trump fired him quite awhile ago.

    Gonna get intetesting.
     
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    Well obstruction of justice...
     
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    President can fire head of the FBI any time they want. See James Comey. The investigations will continue.
     
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    Just because the investigations continue, doesn’t mean that they weren’t/aren’t being disrupted by firing the person who was investigating a possible crime. Especially if the firing was done to protect the person who is being investigated upon.
     
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    this smacks of Canseco writing a book after the gravy train ended

    :Magic Shaking Head No:
     
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