2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. JLaker17

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    So now with Clark out of the picture, who (other than Deron Williams) could be a target for our room exception? Would hate to see it go to waste.
     
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    Trey Burke is an interesting name. I heard Isiah Canaan was a name thrown in there, more of a shooter than a PG. Probably the most talented, yet risky name still out there is Ty Lawson.

    Sessions and CJ Watson are pretty much bottom of the barrel.
     
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    Ty Lue might be willing to be our backup PG with all that's going on in the Land. Just need to drop 40 pounds
     
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    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

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    Unless something exceptionally unexpected pops up, I'm good standing pat with the roster now that we have Ennis as the backup.
     
  5. abeer3

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    did i miss phx dumping knight? not that i really care...

    anyway, i think clark would have been GREAT at 4.3. i don't like him at 8, and apparently, neither does anyone else.

    i think kcp's gone in any 2-max scenario, but i think lopez on a one-year at 5 per is totally possible due to the bird rights situation.

    what's randle's cap hold? seems like he's going to be moved. mixed feelings on that.
     
  6. LaVarBallsDad

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    Hmmm. So any other needs? Another wing, possibly?
     
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    I wonder who we'll invite...?
     
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    Knight suffered a torn ACL and out for season, announced today.
     
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    So we're done or were saying that maybe hoping their offer of 4.3 mill is good enough for someone. When is the deadline to use the exception?
     
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    you can keep the exception all year, so the lakers might save it in case someone gets waived later in the year or something like this.
     
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    I'm still waiting for a nice Woj bomb

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    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

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    I actually remember the talking heads throwing out this trade scenario while the season was still rolling along when none of the Kyrie discontent was known. I think the Clips maybe have to give up a tiny bit more since they don't have a lot of leverage in the situation with CP3 being an unrestricted free agent (maybe they send Crawford too) but in the end, that trade would have likely given everyone what they wanted, and I think LBJ would have also stayed put at the end of the season. Despite the fact that I totally get why Kyrie is doing what he's doing and I sympathize with him, if I were unfortunate enough to be a Cavs fan, I'd be PISSED at Kyrie for the timing of this.
     
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    Should've read up buddy....Kyrie let them know for some time now, Clev tried to keep it in house so they wouldn't lose leverage but somehow someway it got leaked. Even Billups said he knew bout Kyrie during his interview to be Cle GM and that was several weeks ago, barely a week or two after Cp3 Hou announcement
     
  14. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

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    I did read up. He told them a week or so before it broke. It wasn't at the end of the season in exit meetings. It happened after he found out he was being shopped during the PG-13 and Butler saga.
     
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    For whatever reason I feel like a crazy trade is going to happen.
     
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    Woj is a SEXXY BOMB!
     
  17. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    I'm thinking something between Phx and the Cavs is going to happen. Bledsoe is Bron's guy. Knight went down and the Suns need some warm bodies and are willing to take in cap as long as they got young assets coming in. Lakers want to dump Deng.

    Cavs out: Irving, Shump, Frye
    Cavs in: Bledsoe, Chandler, Dudley

    Phx out: Bledsoe, Chandler, Dudley, Warren, Milsap
    Phx in: Irving, Deng, Clarkson, Hart (or Zu), Future 1st

    LA out: Deng, Clarkson, Hart (or young asset), Future 1st
    LA in: Frye, Shump, Warren, Milsap

    Recall the Cavs tried to sign Bogut, but he went down to injury. They figure some of that defensive length will bother the Warriors. This is why I can see them liking Chandler coming in from the Suns, where he has no business being since they are going young now. Dudley is a shooter to help stretch the floor and another guy that is in win now mode. All 3 of those deals expire in 2 years, so they have multiple expirings to play with if it doesn't work out for them after Bron leaves. Also, it is pretty much an even exchange of bodies and salaries heading out and coming back, so their tax bill won't be effected.

    Woj reported that Phx was going to go young and would collect bad contracts as long as young assets were attached. Well, with Kyrie, Clarkson, a young Laker asset and a future 1st, they know its worth it to take on Deng with their remaining cap space. Also they come out from under Dudley and Chandler's contracts in the process. Deng is a good character guy so he should be able to mentor their youth...especially Jackson.

    Deng dong, the mitch is dead. LA obviously gets out from under Deng's deal and collects expirings in Warren, Milsap and Frye. Frye should help with stretching the floor for Luke's offense and we also get to look at a Milsap (who can get waived since he's on a non-guaranteed contract) and we also get to to see Warren (who is a RFA like Randle) this next season to see if he sticks. Shump has been on the trading block so his name here shouldn't be a surprise, but he is the wild card since he has a player option and can opt into his final year @10M. So I'm sure the Lakers are hoping that he doesn't and plays the market. However it doesn't hurt us too bad if he does opt in cause we either trade him as an expiring deal or stretch him, which would be a much favorable cap hit compared to stretching Deng (3.3 for 3 years vs 7.4 for 5 years). Also with 3 going out and 3 coming in and clearing cap, we got enough money to sign Bryant to a more lucrative deal, we gain a traded player exception of about 8M and we still retain our room exception and a roster spot to remain flexible in rounding out our roster as the season goes on.

    Whatever Irving deal the Cavs eventually settle on, LA has to look into getting involved by offering future picks and some of our young assets...again, it must be done to repent for the sins of Jim/Mitch. I still have no idea what those knuckleheads were thinking in giving those 2 egregious contracts away last summer.
     
  18. therealdeal

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    I think that the Cavs would ask for the pick.
    I think the Suns would feel they're giving up too much.
    I think the Lakers would probably do this deal, but I think they'd rather have Hart than Warren or Shumpert for financial reasons next summer.
     
  19. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree the Cavs would ask for the pick.

    I disagree that the Suns would think they are giving up too much. I think if the Suns can keep Booker and Jackson while adding Irving, they will feel like they won. Putting those 3 guys together is actually one of the main reasons I would be reluctant to do that trade. We'd be helping to form a strong young core that would be on the same timeline as us with Ball, Ingram and probably PG-13.

    But the biggest reason this trade wouldn't work is why are we even needed? Strip us out of this trade and it would be a whole lot easier.

    Cavs out: Irving and J.R. Smith (about 33 million)
    Suns out: Bledsoe, Bender, Dudley and a future 1st (about 29 million)

    That's works under the cap and no one gets stuck with Deng.
     
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    The Lakers should pursue a trade with the Suns if they fail to land Kyrie, which is definitely a possibility. Here's what I propose:

    Lakers IN: Elijah Millsap (non-guaranteed), Miami 2018 1st Rounder
    Lakers OUT: Jordan Clarkson

    Millsap is necessary purely to provide the Suns with enough cap space to absorb Clarkson's contract.

    The Suns agree to this trade due to their sore need at guard after the injury to Knight. Clarkson is young, on a decent contract, and fills their need at guard. The Suns only need to give up a Miami 2018 1st Round Pick which will likely be out of the lottery considering how close the Heat were to making the playoffs last season.

    The Lakers agree to this trade to acquire an asset needed to dump Deng in a follow-up trade, and to rid themselves of Clarkson's contract which will make it harder to resign key players such as Lopez, KCP, and Randle next off-season while also signing two max contracts. This also frees up about $10 million in cap space after Millsap is waived.

    Then comes the second trade with the Bulls:

    Lakers IN: Dwayne Wade, Cameron Payne
    Lakers OUT: Luol Deng, Miami 2018 1st Rounder, Denver 2018 2nd Rounder, Bulls 2019 2nd Rounder, $3.5 Million Cash

    The Bulls agree to this trade since they shed about $10 million in salary (probably more than what they would save in buying out Wade) and also receive $3.5 million in cash. They also unload Payne who is completely unproductive. Although they absorb Deng, the Bulls could stretch or trade him over the next two off-seasons. Even if they can't trade Deng until he has one year left on his contract, this trade has a net result of paying $5 million for one 1st rounder and two 2nd rounders, which is a good value.

    The Lakers obviously agree to unload Deng, and to take back Wade to fill in the Clarkson role as lead backup guard. Sure, perhaps Wade won't like coming off the bench, but he will still make his full salary while living in LA, and he would have a chance to remain with the team if LeBron comes next off-season. Payne has a team option for next season, which the Lakers would decline. Now the Lakers would be free to sign two max free agents and retain one or more of KCP, Lopez and Randle.

    Lakers 2017-18 Roster:

    PG: Ball / Wade / Ennis
    SG: KCP / Hart / Payne
    SF: Ingram / Kuzma / Brewer
    PF: Randle / Nance Jr / Robinson?
    C: Lopez / Zubac / Bryant

    I doubt any of this happens, but I wish it would since that team wins enough games to prevent the Lakers pick from going to the C Bags next summer, and likely convinces PG and LeBron to sign max contracts next off-season while retaining other key players.
     
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