2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. LALakersFan4Life

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    This past season was his best season since 2011. The guy shot 47% 18 PPG 4 APG 3 RPG.
     
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    Dude got paid and it'll be harder for them to keep everyone intact.
     
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    Why is he saying the Warriors won? Sure, the kept a key part of their team, but they lost those negotiations and more importantly, they lost Klay in 2 years.

    Klay >> Iggy. All over that extra year.
     
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    It's possible they're only talking short term. Almost assured championship now is better than maybe championships later. They've already won 2, keeping this core with Livingston, Iggy, West helps them most likely win it all again this season. Some franchise never get 1 title, so 2 in 3 years is amazing, 3 in 4 years would be all-time stuff. If they have Curry and Durant locked up, they probably feel Klay is the one loss they can live with. Maybe.
     
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    They will trade Klay for a high pick/young promising player on a cheap deal ( the cost is going to be/would be too high even without Iggy).

    They prioritize Draymond versatility over Klay as a 3rd option and they are right
     
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    Klay will have to go eventually, they are aware of it. And the guy is better than 3rd option, he will get paid to do more somewhere else.
     
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    Not sure they're. Klay is the better player IMO.

    His defense and his ability to erupt offensively and carry the load at times which is something Draymond isn't capable of.
     
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    Klay doesn't get nearly enough credit as he should. He is there best two-way player.
     
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    Today's Updates:

    Point Guards/Combo Guards
    Three SDs Up (averaging $40M/season)
    Stephen Curry +18 – Five years, $201M (age 29)

    Two SDs Up
    George Hill +10

    One SD Up (averaging $19M/season)
    Jeff Teague +6 – signs three year, $57M deal (age 29)
    Jrue Holiday +6 – signs five year, $126M deal (age 27)
    Darren Collison 0
    Patty Mills 0 – signs four year, $50M deal (age 28)

    Middle of the Pack (averaging 5 M/season)
    Dion Waiters -3
    Derrick Rose -4
    Deron Williams -4
    Jason Terry -5
    Beno Udrih -5
    Michael Carter-Williams -6 (now UFA) Signs one-year, $2.7M deal with CHA (age 25)
    Langston Galloway G -7 becomes UFA (signs three year, $21M deal) age 25

    JORDAN CLARKSON -9
    Bobby Brown -9 (now UFA)
    Ty Lawson -9
    Arron Afflalo -9

    One SD Down (averaging $2.3m)
    Raymond Felton -11
    Jose Calderon -11 Signs one-year, $2.3M deal with Cleveland (age 35)
    Ronnie Price -11
    Brandon Jennings -12
    Trey Burke -12 (now UFA)
    Randy Foye -12

    Two SDs Down (Minimum Contract)
    TYLER ENNIS -13
    Brian Roberts -14 (was a -9 last season)
    Aaron Brooks -16
    Norris Cole -17

    Wings
    Two SDs Up
    Averaging 23.0M/season

    Suggested: (One Year at 20M or multiple at decreasing amounts – 2 at 34, 3 at 42, 4 at 44? – as all are older)
    Kyle Korver +3
    Andre Iguodala +3
    Manu Ginobili +2
    JJ Redick +1 (signs 1 year, $23M deal) age 33

    One SD Up - averaging ~10M/season
    Suggested: (One year might start at 18, two at 36, three at 48, four at 56; adjusted down for age)
    Matt Barnes -1
    Thabo -2
    Tony Allen -3
    Shaun Livingston -3 – signs three year, $24M deal (age 31)
    Tyreke Evans -3
    Tony Snell -3 signs four year, $46M deal (age 25)
    *Tim Hardaway Jr. -4
    *Kentavious Caldwell-Pope -4
    *Andre Roberson -4

    Middle of the Pack (People overpaid like crazy for these players last year. These are players I’d consider on MLE-type deals, 5-8M per season.)
    LUOL DENG -6
    Ian Clark -6
    Justin Holiday -6
    Jodie Meeks -7
    Reggie Bullock -9 (becomes UFA)
    Ben McLemore -9 (becomes UFA)
    *Jonathan Simmons -10
    Vince Carter -10
    Dahntay Jones -10
    *Shabazz Muhammad -10 (worst defender at his position)
    James Jones -10
    Anthony Morrow -11

    One SD Down (These are Vet Min to Room Exception, 1-4M)
    POST ASB BRANDON INGRAM -12*
    Shelvin Mack -13
    Sasha Vujacic -13 (was a -8 last season)
    Patricio Garino -14
    Alan Anderson -15
    Sergio Rodriguez -15
    *Ron Baker -15
    Brandon Rush -15
    Alex Toupane -15
    James Young -16

    Two SDs Down
    These are Vet Min Players
    BRANDON INGRAM -18

    Forwards
    Three SDs Up

    Paul Millsap +13

    Two SDs Up
    Averaging ~7M/season (these are incredible deals, in my view)
    Suggested:porter is getting max. The other gents could go in search of a ring. If not, they could be looking at solid paydays. At 30, Johnson could see an incredible deal, approaching 20M per season.

    *Otto Porter Jr. +8
    David West +8 Signs a one-year, $2.3M contract with GSW (age 36)
    Amir Johnson +7 Signs one year, $11M deal with Philly (age 30)


    One SD Up
    There are some excellent players here. Players better suited to SF earned a good deal more money than those who were more PFs last season in this range. If that continues, Johnson, Beasley, Gibson, and Williams could all see huge salaries – in the 15-18M range. The Lakers could add a quality player in Splitter if they want an upgrade on defense. That’s precisely what I’d try to do if I were LA – look at a two year, $19M deal for Tiago.

    James Johnson +4
    Michael Beasley +3
    Taj Gibson +3
    *Alan Williams +2 (becomes RFA)
    Tiago Splitter +2
    *Nikola Mirotic +2
    Zach Randolph +1
    Brandon Bass 0

    Middle of the Pack
    Averaging 13M/season (huge overpay, in my view)
    Note that Randle is in this group, meaning the Lakers are already in decent shape with their current starter. If he continues to improve with age, he could jump into the next higher group by next season, but there are good options available that offer different skillsets – like Ilyasova for shooting, Tucker for defense.
    *Joe Ingles -1 Signs four year, $52M deal (age 29)

    Ersan Ilyasova -1
    JULIUS RANDLE -2
    PJ Tucker -2
    *JaMychal Green -2
    Christian Wood -4
    Jonas Jerebko -5
    Kris Humphries -6
    Thomas Robinson -6
    *Bojan Bogdanovic -6
    Udonis Haslem -6
    Alex Poythress -6
    Dante Cunningham -7
    Patrick Patterson -7

    One SD Down
    If you’re signing one of these players, it’s either for depth or you’re speculating. I steer clear of Green and Metta like the plague. Motiejunas is the only one in the group that offers a good skill – his defense.

    James McAdoo -9 (becomes UFA)
    Donatas Motiejunas -9
    Omri Casspi -9
    Metta -9
    Luke Babbitt -10
    Adreian Payne -10
    Jeff Green -12

    Two SDs Down
    These are end of the bench players, but Troy Williams isn’t a bad prospect.

    *Troy Williams -13
    Derrick Williams -16
    Damjan Rudez -17 (UFA)

    Center-Eligible
    Ibaka will be paid as either the best aging Center-eligible player in the crop or as one of the top five Forwards. He’s going to get a max or near max deal.


    Two SD Up
    Serge Ibaka +9

    One SD Up
    Who’d have imagined this? Olynyk is in line for a max deal. He’s right where Dwight Howard was last year – but five years younger. Zaza was at +5 last year, and he’s been even better slotted into a good team. Even if he falls off a bit, he’s an above average center and a good candidate for a short, high-paying deal or a ring chase. Noel is my favorite among the Center prospects, and both he and Plumlee could be in for massive paydays. Their deals should probably start at around 15M.

    *Kelly Olynyk +8
    Zaza Pachulia +7
    *Nerlens Noel +6
    *Mason Plumlee +5

    Middle of the Pack - averaging $8M per season
    Some good, quality vets here. The Lakers could do worse than to invite back Hibbert, but McGee might be a cheaper option and a better fit. Nene continues to be excellent despite his age; he was at only +1 last season, and he found a good role on a good team.

    Dewayne Dedmon +4
    Nene Hilario +3 – deal doesn’t work; back to drawing board
    *Alex Len +2
    Aron Baynes FC +2
    Mike Muscala +1
    Nick Collison +1
    Roy Hibbert +1
    Marreese Speights +1
    JaVale McGee +1
    Cristiano Felicio 0 – signs four year, $32M deal (age 24)

    One SD Down
    Center is pretty deep. The Lakers have three just below average bigs. Zubac is likely to improve a good deal next season. He could be into the low average range by next season’s close. Mozgov was at -2 last season, meaning he actually played slightly better this season. Let that sink in.

    Jeff Withey -1
    TARIK BLACK -1 (one of the better positional defenders)
    Bogut C -1 (still top 5 defender in the NBA over the last three seasons)
    Joel Anthony -3
    IVICA ZUBAC -4

    Two SD Down
    Probably not worth a contract. Center is deep.

    Walter Tavares -7
    Lavoy Allen FC -7

    Four SD Down (Ouch)
    Again. Ouch.

    *Joffrey Lauvergne -12 (becomes RFA for some reason)

    Dudes I need to add:
    Danilo Gallinari F - becomes UFA
    Pau Gasol C - becomes UFA
    Jordan Hill FC - waived, becomes UFA
    David Lee FC - become UFA
    Alex Len C - becomes RFA
    Kyle Lowry G - becomes RFA
    Luc Mbah a Moute F - becomes UFA
    KJ McDaniels GF - becomes UFA
    Ben McLemore G - becomes UFA
    CJ Miles FG - becomes UFA
    Willie Reed - becomes UFA
    Ramon Sessions G - becomes UFA
    Nick Young GF - becomes UFA
    Blake Griffin F - becomes UFA, signs big contract.
    Wayne Seldon SG – 22 – becomes UFA, signs 2 year deal with Memphis for $2.9M
     
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    Nobody knows how Klay would do as the first option on a team, but at worst he's a dynamite second option like Pau Gasol.
     
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    How much cap do we have to spend today?
     
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    Maybe because Shumpert is lousy. Seriously, did that guy do anything in the finals worth noting?
     
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    Mychal Thompson has said Klay isn't coming or at least that's their mindset right now. He said the group (including management) is dead-set on staying together for as long as this run keeps going. Things could change in two years, but right now I'm not quite as hopeful as you are.
     
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    So we've reached out to Korver, Rondo, and McLemore. We touched base with Iguodala. We touched base with Nick Young. One report had us checking in with Taj Gibson.

    Some interesting names still on the board. I'm still focused on Korver, CJ Miles, Afflalo, and maybe Tony Allen. I may also throw a 17 million dollar deal at Manu Ginobili. He'd be a great veteran to give the young team a lesson in professionalism. Manu is almost cooked at this point, but he's got the experience to really help this team. Philadelphia almost pulled him out of San Antonio last year with a similar offer. Philadephia offered Manu a 2/30 million dollar deal with the 2nd year non-guaranteed. I'd give him basically the same offer if some of these other guys started coming off the board. I expect Korver to find a way to stay in Cleveland. Young is probably looking for more years. On a one-year deal i'd prefer a veteran over McLemore and I don't really want Rondo.
     
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    Do we sign anybody today? LOL.
     
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    No I sort of doubt it. There's going to be a lot of guys waiting on Hayward to make his decision. Once Hayward picks a spot, the lesser guys start to find homes too. Teams who miss out on Hayward could panic and throw 40 million at guys like Miles or even Nick Young.
     
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    Ugh. All I'm doing is looking at Twitter right now...welp. Better find something to be productive today...
     
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    I wouldnt mind Korver. Great shooter to help spread the floor for the next year.
     
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    I think we should stealthily offer a 3 year contract to Hayward by using Kobe as a conduit.
     
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