2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. Weezy

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    We shouldn't even be calling him, terrible look for us IMO. If you have a clear vision, you don't contact players who are the opposite of that vision. Rondo can't shoot, there's no way his ego would allow him to take a backseat to Lonzo, and he's never once shown any signs of wanting to be a mentor to youth.
     
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    I mean I don't think any of us really think we're definitely signing Rondo at this point just based on one tweet that we talked to him. It just further concerns me about managements decision making and basketball acumen if they seriously think he'd be a good fit.
     
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    You don't need to sell me on why he's a bad fit for us, you won't get any counter arguments from me. I agree. I'm just not considered that simply calling his agent to talk will affect our image to other free agents either this year or next because they don't understand why we'd want Rondo.
     
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    yeah i don't like the idea of bringing rondo in

    he still sees himself as a starter and he does not come off as the mentor type. we need shooters, shooters, and more shooters
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/nba.nbcs...lls-rave-about-rajon-rondo-as-a-teammate/amp/
     
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    With George in OKC I'm fine with Hayward
    One call doesn't mean they think Rondo is a good fit.

    Let's not overreact to one tweet.
     
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    But it's the offseason. Overreacting to every tweet is part of the fun! :rofl:
     
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    Lol. Yeah but lets not say wild ish like its a legit "bad look".
     
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    I feel you. He ain't coming..we are probably literally doing him a favor lol.
    Unless he gets no offers, then what? What money are you willing to do it for?
    7.5 mill?
     
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    Magic has already hinted that we're signing one year deal guys. Rondo would want a multi-year deal, so I think the Lakers signing him is far fetched. We desperately need a wing to backup Ingram. I'd take a flyer on KJ McDaniels. Not a great shooter, but still has value as a defender and transition wing.
     
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    Instead of Rondo. Sign Derrick Rose. He can play off ball with Lonzo.
     
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    but he's in houston's price range?
     
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    Iggy and Ben on the right deals. Don’t see the fit for Rondo unless it’s a sign they really don’t think Lonzo is going to be ready from Day One.
     
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    I'll try to keep updating this as news trickles in:

    Here's the full FA list. As players opt out, I'll add in their details. Schemes to follow.

    Point Guards/Combo Guards
    Three SDs Up (averaging $40M/season)
    Stephen Curry +18 – Five years, $201M (age 29)

    Two SDs Up
    George Hill +10

    One SD Up (averaging $22M/season)
    Jeff Teague +6 – signs three yeare, $57M deal (age 29)
    Jrue Holiday +6 – signs five year, $126M deal (age 27)
    Darren Collison 0
    Patty Mills 0 – signs four year, $50M deal (age 28)

    Middle of the Pack
    Dion Waiters -3
    Derrick Rose -4
    Deron Williams -4
    Jason Terry -5
    Beno Udrih -5
    Michael Carter-Williams -6 (now UFA)
    JORDAN CLARKSON -9
    Bobby Brown -9 (now UFA)
    Ty Lawson -9

    One SD Down
    Raymond Felton -11
    Jose Calderon -11
    Ronnie Price -11
    Brandon Jennings -12
    Trey Burke -12 (now UFA)
    Randy Foye -12

    Two SDs Down (Minimum Contract)
    TYLER ENNIS -13
    Brian Roberts -14 (was a -9 last season)
    Aaron Brooks -16
    Norris Cole -17

    Wings
    Two SDs Up (One Year at 20M or multiple at decreasing amounts – 2 at 34, 3 at 42, 4 at 44? – as all are older)
    Kyle Korver +3
    Andre Iguodala +3
    Manu Ginobili +2
    JJ Redick +1

    One SD Up - averaging ~10M/season
    Suggested: (One year might start at 18, two at 36, three at 48, four at 56; adjusted down for age)
    Matt Barnes -1
    Thabo -2
    Tony Allen -3
    Shaun Livingston -3 – signs three year, $24M deal (age 31)
    Tyreke Evans -3
    Tony Snell -3 signs four year, $46M deal (age 25)
    *Tim Hardaway Jr. -4
    *Kentavious Caldwell-Pope -4
    *Andre Roberson -4

    Middle of the Pack (People overpaid like crazy for these players last year. These are players I’d consider on MLE-type deals, 5-8M per season.)
    LUOL DENG -6
    Ian Clark -6
    Justin Holiday -6
    Jodie Meeks -7
    Reggie Bullock -9 (becomes UFA)
    Ben McLemore -9 (becomes UFA)
    *Jonathan Simmons -10
    Vince Carter -10
    Dahntay Jones -10
    *Shabazz Muhammad -10 (worst defender at his position)
    James Jones -10
    Anthony Morrow -11

    One SD Down (These are Vet Min to Room Exception, 1-4M)
    POST ASB BRANDON INGRAM -12*
    Shelvin Mack -13
    Sasha Vujacic -13 (was a -8 last season)
    Patricio Garino -14
    Alan Anderson -15
    Sergio Rodriguez -15
    *Ron Baker -15
    Brandon Rush -15
    Alex Toupane -15
    James Young -16

    Two SDs Down
    These are Vet Min Players
    BRANDON INGRAM -18

    FORWARDS
    Three SDs Up
    Paul Millsap +13

    Two SDs Up
    Porter is getting max. The other gents could go in search of a ring. If not, they could be looking at solid paydays. At 30, Johnson could see an incredible deal, approaching 20M per season.
    *Otto Porter Jr. +8
    David West +8
    Amir Johnson +7

    One SD Up
    There are some excellent players here. Players better suited to SF earned a good deal more money than those who were more PFs last season in this range. If that continues, Johnson, Beasley, Gibson, and Williams could all see huge salaries – in the 15-18M range. The Lakers could add a quality player in Splitter if they want an upgrade on defense. That’s precisely what I’d try to do if I were LA – look at a two year, $19M deal for Tiago.
    James Johnson +4
    Michael Beasley +3
    Taj Gibson +3
    *Alan Williams +2 (becomes RFA)
    Tiago Splitter +2
    *Nikola Mirotic +2
    Zach Randolph +1
    Brandon Bass 0

    Middle of the Pack
    Note that Randle is in this group, meaning the Lakers are already in decent shape with their current starter. If he continues to improve with age, he could jump into the next higher group by next season, but there are good options available that offer different skillsets – like Ilyasova for shooting, Tucker for defense.
    *Joe Ingles -1
    Ersan Ilyasova -1
    JULIUS RANDLE -2
    PJ Tucker -2
    *JaMychal Green -2
    Christian Wood -4
    Jonas Jerebko -5
    Kris Humphries -6
    Thomas Robinson -6
    *Bojan Bogdanovic -6
    Udonis Haslem -6
    Alex Poythress -6
    Dante Cunningham -7
    Patrick Patterson -7

    One SD Down
    If you’re signing one of these players, it’s either for depth or you’re speculating. I steer clear of Green and Metta like the plague. Motiejunas is the only one in the group that offers a good skill – his defense.
    James McAdoo -9 (becomes UFA)
    Donatas Motiejunas -9
    Omri Casspi -9
    Metta -9
    Luke Babbitt -10
    Adreian Payne -10
    Jeff Green -12

    Two SDs Down
    These are end of the bench players, but Troy Williams isn’t a bad prospect.
    *Troy Williams -13
    Derrick Williams -16
    Damjan Rudez -17 (UFA)

    Center-Eligible
    Ibaka will be paid as either the best aging Center-eligible player in the crop or as one of the top five Forwards. He’s going to get a max or near max deal.

    Two SD Up
    Serge Ibaka +9

    One SD Up
    Who’d have imagined this? Olynyk is in line for a max deal. He’s right where Dwight Howard was last year – but five years younger. Zaza was at +5 last year, and he’s been even better slotted into a good team. Even if he falls off a bit, he’s an above average center and a good candidate for a short, high-paying deal or a ring chase. Noel is my favorite among the Center prospects, and both he and Plumlee could be in for massive paydays. Their deals should probably start at around 15M.
    *Kelly Olynyk +8
    Zaza Pachulia +7
    *Nerlens Noel +6
    *Mason Plumlee +5

    Middle of the Pack - averaging $6M per season
    Some good, quality vets here. The Lakers could do worse than to invite back Hibbert, but McGee might be a cheaper option and a better fit. Nene continues to be excellent despite his age; he was at only +1 last season, and he found a good role on a good team.
    Dewayne Dedmon +4
    Nene Hilario +3 – signs four year, $15M deal (age 34)
    *Alex Len +2
    Mike Muscala +1
    Nick Collison +1
    Roy Hibbert +1
    Marreese Speights +1
    JaVale McGee +1
    Cristiano Felicio 0 – signs four year, $32M deal (age 24)

    One SD Down
    Center is pretty deep. The Lakers have three just below average bigs. Zubac is likely to improve a good deal next season. He could be into the low average range by next season’s close. Mozgov was at -2 last season, meaning he actually played slightly better this season. Let that sink in.
    Jeff Withey -1
    TARIK BLACK -1(was -7 last year)
    TIMOFEY MOZGOV -1
    Joel Anthony -3
    IVICA ZUBAC -4
    Two SD Down
    Probably not worth a contract. Center is deep.
    Walter Tavares -7

    Four SD Down (Ouch)
    Again. Ouch.
    *Joffrey Lauvergne -12 (becomes RFA for some reason)

    Dudes I need to add:
    afflalo G
    lavoy allen FC
    Aron Baynes FC
    Bogut C
    Danilo Gallinari F - becomes UFA
    Langston Galloway G - becomes UFA
    Pau Gasol C - becomes UFA
    Jordan Hill FC - waived, becomes UFA
    David Lee FC - become UFA
    Alex Len C - becomes RFA
    Kyle Lowry G - becomes RFA
    Luc Mbah a Moute F - becomes UFA
    KJ McDaniels GF - becomes UFA
    Ben McLemore G - becomes UFA
    CJ Miles FG - becomes UFA
    Willie Reed - becomes UFA
    Ramon Sessions G - becomes UFA
    Nick Young GF - becomes UFA
    Blake Griffin F - becomes UFA
     
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    Afflalo G (-9)
    He can shoot, but he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA, and he contributes nothing other than the shooting.
     
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    I was all for Rondo a few years ago, now with all the young guys I don't want him anywhere near the team. Thats the first name that really doesn't make sense.
     
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