2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. Khmrp

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    How is your avg so low? I thought remainder of his contract over 5yrs? If you do that this season isn't that bout t3mill over 5yrs which is more like 10.5mill per?
     
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    It's double the length of the years plus one year. So if we waive him this summer, it's stretched over 7 years. If we waive him next summer it's stretched over 5 years.

    So the difference would be one summer of about 7.5 million... I'd rather just do it and be done with it than trade a valuable kid in a dump or attach a potential lottery pick to him.
     
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    I see but man 7yrs to 5? Just suck it up for 1 yr lol
     
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    Chance too we can build his value up a lil and package that with someone like Nance,Black etc along with 2nd rounders.

    Gonna be interesting if something happens where we're forced to release him. I don't think it does this upcoming year.
     
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    I also think waiving Deng makes no sense.

    The sooner we get rid of him the better. But currently, he doesn't hurt our cap situation. Therefore I would rather swallow the cash instead of getting rid of him. Also you never know if he might be needed as a filler. I'm, also sure in 2 years time he is an attractive expiring contract and can definitely be used as a trade filler for one of our younger players.
     
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    Insane question, but any chance Deng comes in next season in shape (not a rotting corpse), plays off the bench behind Ingram and looks halfway decent/useful, and drives his trade value back up to the point of being able to dump him at the deadline or next offseason to a team seeking an old vet leader for a couple more seasons? Am I dreaming too hard? It's not impossible right?
     
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    ^Considering we were able to trade Luke Walton, who was absolute garbage, for Ramon Sessions some seasons ago shows anything is possible.

    Or trading Brian Cook for Trevor Ariza...

    nothing is impossible. There are always dumb GMs out there who want to out-smart human logic and fail.
     
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    i think deng could look useful as a 20mpg backup pf. maybe even very useful. problem is that we have both randle and nance, neither of whom plays any other position.
     
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    This is correct. On the other hand, we have the flexibility to trade either Randle or Nance without worrying about their backup.

    I also think there might be a GM who still believes Deng can play. We have to write the checks anyway, so we might also ride it out asap rather than having this nightmare for 7 years on the back of our mind.
     
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    Shouldn't be impossible unless his boob takes an inordinate time to heal. Not that he can't be getting the rest of his body that's not hurt into tip top shape so he can "shut up" all the unfair criticism leveled at him for no reason this season. Not that I'm holding my breath he works that hard around the injury this summer when he was at the bottom or next to it of weight room attendance this season when healthy. But good Luol ..... feel the hate .... let it motivate you for this season. No longer will have the new offense excuse either. Mr "I love shooting it's my favorite thing to do in practice" who shot for s*** in spite of that.
     
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    I love how we are saying it is his boob that needs to heal. Almost makes it sound like he might be "transitioning."
     
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    I was trying to clean it up from the original "titty" injury in sirron's medical opinion. :clap:
     
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    Damn, you're right. I was thinking he could come in and be a backup 3 to Ingram, but unless he gets into the best shape possible he's too slow to play the 3 anymore. Still might have to try and play him there though if we do want to get his trade value to anywhere above zero.
     
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    I wouldn't dump him now unless we were planning on making big moves this summer and need the cap space. We'll be paying a lot for a guy who won't play much but it's something we have to deal with. Maybe some team wants him this trade deadline, who knows.
     
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    Usually I'm the optimist here, but what are you guys on? :D

    Deng having value? Rebuilding his game? Contributing? Man... I hope you're all right because I see nothing for him. He shouldn't play over Randle or Nance Jr. based on both merit and potential. When will he get time to contribute? I don't see much hope in him coming in to camp in good shape either... I have no hope for Deng. :D
     
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    What if Luke sold Deng on reinventing himself as Deng 2.0, and played him off the bench in a Draymond small 5 role for stretches?
     
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    Instead of Zubac or Mozgov?
     
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    Zubac should start. Moz off the bench for some situations, but neither of them can play anything close to a small ball stretch 5 role like Draymond. Deng might not either, but hey, it's worth seeing what he can do in that kind of role. Think a slightly less fat Boris Diaw.
     
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    I feel like Hayward to Boston is a greater than 50/50 shot.
     
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    Miami has been thrown into the conversations as well.
     
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