DRAFT TALK Thread: Looking Like Lonzo

The best I can describe the difference between Fultz and Ball is that Fultz is like Kyrie Irving. Barring injuries, he will be a 20 point a game guy who can ball and be an all-star. However, like Irving, if he isn't in the right place, he will win 20 games a year like Irving was before Lebron got back there. He is lucky that he won't have to worry about that because he is going to Boston and that team will be stacked when he gets there.

Ball has franchise leader talent. He is the type that can come in and help a team win 20 games more then the previous year because he is a team player who feeds into the team, spacing and overall coaching dream of an offense.

Lakers win either way. Without sounding bias, I believe the Lakers actually have the best position in the draft. If for some reason the C Bags decide to pick Ball first, the Lakers get Kyrie Irving 2.0, which would mean the Lakers would more than likely be trading DLO and PG would be a Laker this summer. Lakers win. If Boston picks Fultz, Lakers get the best pure PG that's come into the draft since Chris Paul 12 years ago. You can keep D-Lo and see how that works out for a year and if D-lo is still an issue, PG-13 is there for you next summer.

Lakers are in a great position and I am very happy with the timing of bringing in Rob and Magic because I feel that they won't screw s*** up the way Mitch and Chaz's boss did by slightly handicapping the Lakers with that monstrosity of a disaster Mosgov and dead man walking Deng.

 

Hell, Boston could take Fox at #1.

They do like their two way guards, much ado to Smart and Bradley, Fox would actually fit in to their system.

 

Trading Russell? When has Fultz surpassed Russell? Let's not get carried away. As much as I like Fultz and Ball, I still think Russell and Ingram are better prospects.

 

Yes. That's exactly what I said in the post. That Fultz has passed Dlo. Excellent.

 

RE: Russell vs other guards

Out of college, you're probably right. They're on the same level. But Russell is better by 2 years. Trading Russell would mean rewinding the clock by 2 years.

 

And that's my question with Fultz. Sure he's talented offensively, so was Okafor, and Okafor went alll the way to the NCAA Finals. But obviously, people saw something from the workouts that wasn't clicking.

Which is why I think Fox's competitiveness might jump in a steal the show in Boston. And why I think Ball will still kill his workout with us.

I don't think Boston wants to deal with Lavar, as much as he said he would stay out of it, it's not a situation Boston wants to be put in with their current success.

 

Care to elaborate on this?

It sounds to me you are implying keeping Fultz over Russell here.

 

Just think back to Okafor. He was supposedto be the heir to the big men in LA, but his workouts were poor because of what might have been his entitled mindset going in. As talented as Fultz is, it's been pointed out that he didn't lay it all out when he played. Could it be the same red flag people saw with the talented Okafor? The workouts will determine that.

As many of you are saying, Fox is not slouch offensively either, dude is quick with some game, and I would be okay with taking him too. He plays with a high motor and has sneaky athleticism for his size.

 

Ball is going to be selected number 2. That is probably ONE of the reasons they had Russell slide to SG.

Not enamored with his olay personally, but I believe the Lakers are; Ball and Russell will make for a unique backcourt.

Give them the season and let's see what we have...

 

I'd give Russell a shot as the primary SG. It was no accident the team was experimenting with DLo in that spot in the final 10-20 games. Don't kid yourself to think the Lakers won't be picking Ball at #2 unless a team is crazy enough to trade to #1 to pick him

As much as I think Russell is overrated. I would only trade him right now in a deal with Deng + whatever for PG13 (or Jimmy Butler)

 

Agree with Ball. Seems like fate.

 

An efficient Russell and Randle? Lookout.

 

Offensive efficiency will mean improved defensive efficiency. Opponents won't get easy fast break points off of bad shots.

 

Kyrie didn't really shoot many either according to that chart, and I'm sure Kyrie wasn't comfortable with it either and now he has a great jumper.

I'm sure he'll be able to add a variation of it as he develops. People said his form was ineffective, yet still was able to shoot 40% from outside. Maybe he develops a different type of off dribble shot that's unique to him.