Optimism Discussion: The Laker's Sky Is Not Falling

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by therealdeal, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    20,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    It's only the Summer League and the Pre-Season but the glimpses have been positive. They are still trying to learn to play together and the coaching staff is yet to maximize their collective talents. We're probably not be seeing a rag-tag, disjointed and confused product on the floor. Their slow starts though bother me...
     
    lakerjones likes this.
  2. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,564
    Likes Received:
    75,358
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    The slow starts seem to end when the lineup starts to change. Not to keep harping on Randle, but he is in the way on offense a lot. He can't shoot, stands on the perimeter, bumps into guys with his weak screens, where Nance and Black move without the ball and one sticks inside while the other stays out, they don't get in eachother's way. I don't know that sticking Nance into the starting lineup fixes our slow starts, but it seems to me that Russ/JC/Randle/Moz is not a formula for quick starts. Nick has been good for scoring, but Deng was pretty bad starting at the 3. Solution might be to start Deng at the 4, and Randle, well I have no clue.
     
    Cookie, gcclaker and LaVarBallsDad like this.
  3. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,401
    Likes Received:
    60,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    LOL it was funny in this group talk with Luke yesterday someone kind of said the same thing that maybe it was an "advantage" for our team to see them twice so soon before the season. And Luke sort of laughed and said he didn't it was any advantage to playing "those" guys ever. (paraphrased)

    http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/artic...thomas_robinson_tarik_black/s1_13681_22164895
     
    alam1108 likes this.
  4. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Deng starting at the 4 isn't a bad suggesstion or maybe even increasing his minutes at the 4. That would help a great deal with our spacing.

    Nevertheless, I thought the team played considerably better against a team that will probably be in the Finals this season.

    I have also seen glimpses of what our young core can be down the line in 2 seasons or so and we should be excited.

    We are in a fantastic position. I think we're truly building something special here.
     
    raviator, gcclaker and LTLakerFan like this.
  5. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    20,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Given Deng's age and decline, he was better at the 4 the last few years than at the 3 spot. Young has been a revelation with his good play. I would still think we'd trot out a starting five of Russell, Clarkson, Deng, Randle and Mozgov. Deng would be the one on a short leash when we give more minutes to Ingram to accelerate his development. The slow starts have been more with Russell trying to find a balance between his facilitating and scoring. That lineup works well on the boards. Defensively, on paper they should hold their own.

    The conundrum the coaching staff faces is how to dole out the minutes between the resurgent Young and Williams? Calderon, Ingram, Nance and Black should round out the bench rotation. It looks to be a potent and active group.

    Later in the season, it could be Russell, Clarkson, Ingram, Randle and Nance/Zubac handling a sizable bulk of the minutes. It is possible that Mozgov will not hold up starting all the way through...
     
  6. RasAlgethi

    RasAlgethi Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    3,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    Hmm, I think a lineup of Dlo/Clarkson/Ingram/Deng/Mozgov would be pretty interesting. You'd have a quick lineup with floor spacers, shooters, and shot creators at the 1-4, with mozgov anchoring. Could do some real damage.
     
  7. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,564
    Likes Received:
    75,358
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    LA Sparks just won the championship in a thriller game 5 on the road. Yeah, I watch the WNBA, what of it? :Waltonfingerwave:

    I'll take any LA basketball championship any way I can get it, the Sparks were awesome all year. Love me some Toliver, Parker, and Ogwumike.
     
  8. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,598
    Likes Received:
    76,894
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    I watched the highlights of the last 20 seconds of the last game of the Finals. Got my WNBA fix for the season before it was too late!
     
  9. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    20,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    I was following them too. Happy for Johnson being an owner and for Candace Parker who toiled for years. They now have three more championships. THAT is three more than the Clippers!
     
  10. scnottaken

    scnottaken - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2014
    Messages:
    825
    Likes Received:
    1,101
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Any L.A. basketball championship?
     
    jbiggs likes this.
  11. Purp n Gold

    Purp n Gold - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2015
    Messages:
    889
    Likes Received:
    2,819
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Cool Ranch
    Offline
  12. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,564
    Likes Received:
    75,358
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    I forgot the Clippers existed when I said that. I don't think of them as a real LA team, they'll be gone soon anyway.
     
  13. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,084
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Well naturally one would never associate Champions with clippers, unless you're delusional clipper fans lol
     
  14. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,401
    Likes Received:
    60,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    One of my favorite things in life is hearing about ANY member of the Clippers organization showing up at Dodgers Stadium and having a camera pick them up for the crowd to see and boo the hell out of them. So funny!!! So good!!!
     
  15. raviator

    raviator - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    2,279
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    So ummm...we have a winning record! Not sure for how long but....we have a winning record.
     
  16. wcsoldier81

    wcsoldier81 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,073
    Likes Received:
    9,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Nice to see different players making defensive plays down the stretch .
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  17. Lakers2015

    Lakers2015 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    6,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    What's not to be optimistic about?

    All the kids played well.

    Ingram flashed early. Showed what he could do on both ends.

    Russ caught fire early.

    JC and Randle were clutch late. Randle had a very nice all around game with 18, 7, and 6 and JC had 25 on just 12 shots. Insane efficiency.

    Kids just getting started.
     
  18. jbiggs

    jbiggs - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    948
    Likes Received:
    2,458
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Occupation:
    Comic-Con Museum
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    better record than the warriors
     
  19. Lakers2015

    Lakers2015 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    3,634
    Likes Received:
    6,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Championship or bust/
     
    jbiggs likes this.
  20. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,401
    Likes Received:
    60,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
     

Share This Page