Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

I like Hillary Clinton more than Donald Trump.

Flame away =)

 

I think you mean, you hate Trump more than you do Hillary.

 

True, but I find myself wanting to defend her, even though I don't really care for her. Not sure if I would do that if it was just pure hatred for a person.

 

I'm the opposite. I guess I don't have pure hatred for Trump but I do think he's an incompetent tool and a bit crazy. But I find myself wanting to defend him.

My rationale for defending him is this. It's mainly just playing devils advocate. Like the whole country/mainstream media is in an annoying circle jerk of sensationalist hyperbole where everyone is fighting to see who can pretend to be the most outraged. "Trump's a bigot! He's a racist! He'll destroy all of human civilization!"

Like if you could sum up the candidates with an arbitrary number to measure how good of a president they'd be, I think Hillary is being painted as a +25 while Trump is being painted as a -100. But in reality, I think Hillary would be a -15 and Trump would be a -25. Trump sucks. But not AS much as he's being made out to be. Hillary's not absolutely terrible. But she definitely isn't good. So I defend Trump/criticize Hillary on social media and in conversations with friends/family just to try to bring some balance. Trump's an easy target and so he's hit a lot. Hillary has just as much baggage and flaws, but she's such a good establishment politician that you have to dig a bit deeper to hit her.

It's easy to watch the debate and then parrot an overgeneralized headline like "Trump proves he's a misognyst and racist by insulting former Latina Miss USA contestant in the 90's!".

It's a bit more difficult to say "Hillary is utilizing the big cable networks that fund her to push a narrative that Russia is hacking us (which is both deceptive and diplomatically dangerous), in order to proactively delegitimize possible email leaks that might incriminate her".

 

The piling on Trump could be because he actually does suck more than Hillary. Like this doesn't have to be a fair and balanced proposition. The things he said about the beauty queen pageant, were actually said, same about Megan Kelly, Rosie O'Donnell, Heidi Klum,etc.

 

Well, may I suggest some John Oliver and some Daily Show?

I don't understand how can someone justify voting for someone who says, multiple times, racist, bigot, crazy things...

You have to assume that they both will be crooked, like any elected politician, to nearly the same degree. See Nixon, Kennedy, Bush... probably all of them since like 1800s.
But only one is openly racist, openly crazy, openly chauvinistic, openly xenophobic, openly incompetent (see estimations for wall and other things related to his supposed "business savvy"). The second one is probably some of those things, at least will try no to show them.

Lesser of two evils. This is how it looks from the outside of US.

For my country, it's probably irrelevant, with a slight edge to Trump... BTW.

 

Hmm... what about other things? She is a 70 y.o. white establishment granny, of course she's racist.

May be you should just like vote Obama again...

 

Reverse bipartisan, eh?

 

The super predator comment was not good obviously, but she did apologize for it. She also apologized for the emails too.

You don't have to think the apologies are sincere, but at least it's out there. I've never seen Donald Trump apologize for anything. If he did, it's one of those "I'm sorry you feel that way" or "i'm sorry i'm not PC" sorta, kinda apologies.

 

All racist, bigotry, immature comments aside, do you truly believe Trump has the political capacity to run the United States of America?

Honest question. If the man can't keep some of his businesses afloat, how can you expect him to run an entire country?

 

Yea I would say so, because most politicians already lie and flip flop. At least with Hillary, I can assume she won't say the first thing that comes to her head. Alot of people might find that kind of authenticity to be refreshing, but I would argue that that's not inherently something to hang your hat on.

 

If the requirement to be elected was having successfully run businesses, we'd have very few politicians. I love the idea, but make no mistake Trump has a much better clue on reality finance than 99% of politicians.

 

It's not so much of a requirement, moreso it's his nonchalant demeanor over them and other items such as his questionable offshore investments and tax evasion.

I would be more apathetic if he had said, yeah, I made some bad investments and own up to them, but he doesn't. He just blows it off like he did nothing wrong.

I could imagine him starting a war with North Korea, then say, "I didn't do it. Wasn't me."