Captain America being Hydra, is like Kobe being a secret C bag for his whole career. "Hail C Bags" and then he lost a final by 40 to humiliate the Lakers and keep the C Bags ahead in the ring count. And then he snapped his own achilles and destroyed his own knee and shoulder, just to mess up the Lakers cap space and insisted on the Byron hiring...... This is total BS. Cap was all about integrity and now they crap on him. This is a total bs move.
At this point I'm 90% sure he's being manipulated by Red Skull and Steve will go bad for a while fighting everyone because he's been tricked into thinking he's Hydra. This'll lead to some bad stuff and eventually Cap snaps out of it to realize the crap he's done and he'll feel bad about it.
Saw Apocalypse last night... The writing is some of the worst I've seen in a long time. Just awful. The dialogue between actors is so bad that I was audibly groaning at times. The CG is really spotty and the props look cheap at times. Some things work and are fun. Most of the scenes between Fassbender and McAvoy are solid. Isaac is a good Apocalypse. There's an obvious cameo everyone will probably enjoy. Sansa Stark and Cyclops are better than I thought they'd be. Nightcrawler is good. Quicksilver again steals the show. I'd say it's probably a 6.5/10 or so. It missed almost every opportunity to be different and special and instead tried to be just a blockbuster. Kinberg and Singer should probably move on. Good enough to not reboot, but not good enough to make anyone really care.
This is pretty much my feelings on the matter. I'd like to add that everyone was saying the Apocalypse constume looks better and works better in the actual movie than it did in the trailers. That is false. The costume still looks cheesy as all hell. I would also add that the development of such an iconic villian, probably the X Mens most formidable one, was weak...VERY weak. Didn't get much of his motivations and he seemed sort of MCUish where he was just bad because the movie needs someone to be bad.
His motivations were just... muddled. Did he want to destroy everyone or enslave them? And why? I'm willing to bite on "he just wants to do this because he's a bad guy" if that bad guy's got a clear motivation. I'm willing to take that leap if you give me a little to go with, but this was... soft. Poorly written. And yes the costumes still look so clunky. FOX is cheap as all hell and won't pay for a proper costume designer. Not to mention Singer hates costumes so he won't give them to the fans even if we want them. You get a tiny look at more traditional costumes late in the movie, but of course nothing happens in them and they still look like Halloween costumes. I don't want everything to be Marvel, but I want everything to be quality. This was a step back from their already middling movies.
I agree. Singer is better than Snyder, that's for certain. But X-Men could probably afford to be in better hands. First Class was shockingly good. Not because it was super good, but because when compared to Last Stand and Wolverine Origins, it was amazing. Deadpool was obviously good too. Fox needs to make some more inspired directing choices like that. But I'm not sure Fox is interested in doing what it takes to really get the talent in there to bring it to the next level. They just want to keep making movies so the rights don't revert back, and if they can make 100 million per picture, they're happy.
They make the X-Men on surprisingly modest budgets. I mean Apocalypse cost less than 200 million to make. They have modest marketing efforts, modest film budgets, and then are content with whatever extra cheese they make. As long as people are fine paying for incredibly average products, they're going to keep giving incredibly average products. Days of Future Past is their best effort by far and it shows. First Class relied almost exclusively on McAvoy and Fassbender. Those two make that movie. Without them it's honestly garbage. It might as well be a ScyFi movie. Apocalypse is a step back. I hope they see that Deadpool worked because it was a) fresh but also b) true to the character and c) embraced the aesthetic. I'm sick of the clunky X-Men costumes. Can we please have the real costumes next? C'mon. Not that hard...
1. Completely agree with the take on the costumes. Fox seems to have a history of just throwing some leather out there and calling it a day. And while costumes are admittedly not the most important thing about a film, in some ways they can make or break it. I hate to keep trumpeting the Disney horn, but by and large they strive to make the costumes both feel authentic to the character AND look appealing. I remember before both Thor and Cap 1 discussing with a coworker how cheesy those two costumes could end up being. Fake norse knight and spangly spandex could really turn out bad. Ironman was an easy one to nail so I wasn't sure that they could pull it off, but they did. And they keep pulling it off. Even with Antman and Vision you have too really bizarre looks, but both work. Not to mention new Spidy and Black Panther who both look amazing. Its those little details that really make the movies hum, and fox just seems to phone it in way to often and end up looking like the bad wigs on CW super hero shows. 2. I'm probably in the minority here, but I haven't liked any of the X-Men movies. 1 and 2 are fun, but at times cheesy. 3 and the wolverine movies are simply pathetic, wolverine 2 being the most palatable. And while DoFP and FC were huge improvements with some really good stuff in them, I still felt that they were hamstrung by a lot of issues. It doesn't surprise me that Apoc is being reviewed as a jumbled mess of some great things and some bad things. The movies feel rushed and don't seem to lack attention to detail. I think it all goes back to some statements by fox at the very beginning where they rejected the idea of directly adapting the comics and set out to make something new. In doing so they simultaneously pushed fans away and made the larger mistake of rejecting decades worth of stellar story telling. spot on, that is why deadpool worked. It wasn't another rehash of a super hero trope, it was a ridiculously crude comedy that happened to have a super powered person in it. Marvel is hitting home runs right now because they do the same thing. If you look at their best films/shows you see that they aren't just superhero films, they are genre films that just happen to have people with powers. Avengers=classic summer blockbuster, GotG=Classic adventure ala Indy but in space, Antman=Heist film ala oceans 11, Cap 2/3 = political thrillers, DD=classic martial arts story line, JJ=Character based noire, and so forth. In addition to that as you said they get people who love and understand the source material to adapt it to film, not an outsider. When a hard core DD fan watches the show they see the source material lovingly adapted in terms of characters, themes, events, and visuals. Sadly I think that the lesson folks learned from Deadpool is not your three points, rather its was instead the false assumption that people loved R-rated superhero films. Same with Nolan's Batman trilogy. In the end hollywood walked away thinking that people loved the dark grittiness, when in reality people loved that it was your list of those three key elements.
I think your last point is pretty poignant (alliteration!). Marvel (and I don't WANT to keep tooting their horn) has it nailed down: there is no superhero genre. There's just good storytelling that is wrapped around people with powers. THAT is why I came to Marvel in the first place and THAT is why they'll buck the trend on "superhero fatigue". There's no fatigue on good story telling. However, if you just keep giving the audience explosions and costumes with nothing meaningful behind it, they'll eventually tire of it. FOX was so spot on with Deadpool. It's a great movie and it's because it's fresh and different. I fear for the sequel though. Not only will FOX want a more hands-on approach, but they're also going to want to try to recapture the magic of "new" and that's almost impossible.
Bingo. Their costumes are not even recognizable from the comics. They are essentially not much different than the dreadful Black Canary costume from Arrow where it's black leather and a ton of buckles. You accept it on a CW show because they probably had 100 bucks to spend on it, but a film with a big budget? I think DC and X-Men still don't get that the geeks and nerds won, and that the semi-dorky looking costumes are OK to have on screen. It's like they are still trying to protect their movies from being called nerdy. They are trying to make sure all the "jocks" and "cool people" see their movies too and are worried that costumes that pay tribute to the ones from the actual "nerdy" comic books might be too much to stomach for most people. No one cares.
Brie Larson is in early talks for the Captain Marvel role apparently. That'd make just another crazy awesome casting addition for Marvel. Damn.
I enjoyed it, but felt it could've been better. The dialogue and motivations were lacking. Many characters, especially the bad guys, were tragically underutilized. This should've either been a 2-part movie or a super-long movie.
I saw that! It's awesome! Definitely too old to be Spidey this time around, but I'd actually be kind of cool with an older Miles Morales who sort of mentors Peter somehow. I've got a feeling he'll play Prowler though who is Miles's uncle/bad guy.
I must say that I am very tentatively excited. This sounds like it could be the first really good spiderman film ever...please sony just sit there, shut up, and collect your checks...
not by me, in fact Im not sure it even appears on the best comic movie radar. Not to rehash old posts, but Toby was a good Peter/bad spidey. AG was an awful Peter/Good Spidey. In the end no movie has ever really captured spiderman as a character. Spidey 2 is the best of the first highly cheesey series, and the last 2 were quite frankly terrible.
Duuuuuuuuude. Spider-Man 2 is great! It's in literally every top 10 list for comic book movies. http://www.newsarama.com/15376-10-best-comic-book-based-movies-of-all-time.html http://www.comicbookmovie.com/comic...ook-superhero-movies-i-have-ever-seen-a115411 http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/10/25/igns-top-25-comic-book-movies?page=5 http://www.darkhorizons.com/features/1581/what-re-the-most-acclaimed-comic-book-films http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-and-worst-comic-book-movies It's great. I know Tobey isn't perfect as Spider-Man but as a movie it's fantastic. The third one is an abomination, but the second one is great.
