Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

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  1. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

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    That's what I'm thinking. If anything, he gives you a number 1 option on offense, a good pick in pop option, and some much needed skill and size at the 5. You're right, though; defensively, he's not very good. LOL.
     
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    He somehow averages over 1.5 a year or so, but he's a terrible defender and even worse he's an awful rebounder! He always has way too few rebounds per year for his size.

    It's funny because we've been looking for guys who ONLY rebound and defend so that'd definitely be a direction I wouldn't expect the FO to go. :D But it'd make the team better that's for sure.
     
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    I'm not sure we are "passing" though. It sounds like the "disinterest" is mutual. I'm not arguing that DeRozan is a bad player or anything. I'm just saying that DeRozan for the max isn't like some slam dunk. There's enough holes in his game that I can see a lot of teams not being interested in signing him for the max. I mean, I think it's 21 teams that will have max money available. I wonder how many of them would give their max slot to DeRozan? Regardless, looking at our roster where we have a pf who can't shoot from the outside and a sg who is good (not as good as DeRozan obviously) already, maybe they think those max slots are better spent elsewhere. We have a good sg already. Our best player last season was our sg. We are in DIRE need of a center.

    I honestly think the plan is to use only half our cap space to get a center and then go into next offseason with 2 max slots again but a deeper talent pool and a better understanding of what we have (all the rookies won't pan out most likely) and how this new ridiculous cap number actually impacts team's rosters.
     
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    if mike conley leaves memphis, i wonder what gasol's cost would be. i wonder what lopez's cost would be if the lakers offered to take him right off the bat in FA. though i see that bkn is finally out of cap hell, so lopez's deal isn't really an albatross for them.

    anyway, i'd take either and believe each could play in the prospective new offense. each can also shoot well enough from the elbow to give the lakers more room to play randle.
     
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    Didn't Gasol basicly said "eff you Lakers" and resigned with the Grizz, when there were rumors about our interest?
     
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    I think Gasol would fit great with this system and team, but yeah he was pretty upset at the franchise for the way his brother was treated. I'm sure Pau talked to him a lot about how alienated the Lakers made him feel.

    Then again, if he's traded here he doesn't have much of a choice. If Conley leaves, then Gasol is dead weight and needs to be moved.
     
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    Marc is terrific. That would be a great addition. Even in what was considered a down year for him he still put up 17, 7, 2 blocks and 4 dimes. He's still one of the best all around bigs when healthy.
     
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    I'm not really sure what to expect this off season.. A lot of good FA's & a lot of Teams with cap space.

    There is a really good list of Unrestricted Free Agents that I'd be glad to have any of on our Team:

    Durant
    Whiteside
    DeRozan
    Horford
    Barnes
    Gasol
    Batum
    Al Jefferson
    Ryan Anderson
    Loul Deng
    Biyumbo
    Evan Turner
    Bazemore
    Jeff Green
    David Lee
    Speights

    I don't think I'd be upset about any of those guys joining the Team.. & I'm sure we can attract at least one of them..
     
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    Ryan Anderson would be a great fit if we didn't already have Randle and Nance Jr. I still would like to see the Lakers bring Bazemore back. Him and Clarkson would be a very solid duo at shooting guard. If we can't get Whiteside or Horford we should at least be able to get Biyumbo. After his inconsistency against the Cavaliers I don't really wanna pay 20 million for that so I'd prefer to just spend that elsewhere. I wouldn't pay more than 15 mill and I suspect neither will Mitch and Jim. We could Lou's contract to acquire a center like we did with Hibbert a season ago.
     
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    why do people like speights? this is a tenth man type, imo, and just not a good fit for most teams.

    as for FA, i'm staying ratcheted down. the list above is shorter than the list of teams with max space available. that's super depressing.

    if we're operating in reality:

    i want one of these centers: pachulia, koufos, tyson chandler, mozgov, mahinmi

    i view all as attainable and all as guys who start and play about 25mpg, to be replaced by a smaller backup (black, randle, nance, vet min type FA)

    and i want one of these sfs: deng, chandler parsons, demarre carroll (perhaps in salary dump?), rudy gay (same)

    and i want marvin williams, who i think is a great fit for this roster.

    this list, to me, is realistic. maybe even overly optimistic.

    getting one of those centers, one of those sfs, and marvin williams gives the team some vets who a) won't stunt the growth of the youngsters, and b) might help them win some games next year. like 30. which, sadly, is a step up. you can build from there.

    chandler/black/vet
    randle/marvin/nance
    deng/ingram/brown
    clarkson/lou
    russell/felton

    maybe snag some vets on the cheap to play backup pg (like felton?) and c. 32nd pick can be used anywhere.

    again, not a great team, but one that i think fits the goals of the organization right now: win more and develop the youth.
     
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    We'll see on Biyombo. I wonder if he even understand what kind of discount he'd have to take because DeRozan is definitely getting the max.

    Whiteside is probably gone if Miami is seriously asking for that. Honestly, that might be good for him though. He needs a chip on his shoulder to stay level and focused.
     
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    Not smart. He is a red hot FA right now, jettisoned there due to injury from Valanciunas. He should strike while he can. In Toronto he's a backup. He could get max and a starting role. I admire the loyalty but he needs to be smart here.
     
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    hes restricted
     
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    Biyombo would have to take roughly $8m. He can get twice that in LA. And he can keep playing with DD. And he can start. Make the play, bro.
     
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    toronto's own gm was pretty skeptical of them keeping biyombo. he's gone, imo. amicably, but gone. it's just a matter of where.

    the whiteside thing is interesting. let me reiterate for the 1000th time: pat riley is a dirty cheater. i could see him skirt the rules and keep whiteside at less than the max via shady dealings, like he has in the past.

    part of me, if i'm la, would like to give him a taste of his own medicine:

    day one of FA offer wade near his max (25 per), whiteside his max (21 per), and deng whatever is left over (14?)--simultaneously. then let miami sort out the offers and decide what's most important to them. it would be freaking delicious. also, f pat riley with a rusty fork.

    no downside, either, as the lakers would check all boxes in FA if they nabbed all three.
     
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    What shady dealings has he done in the past? I always wondered how often that happens in the nba.
     
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    We will see what happens with all these guys. I havent gotten attached to bringing in any particular guys. I still think we will bring in a nice combination of players.
     
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    That would be hilarious. And you're right. It would check all the boxes. The only problem is I see no scenario where Wade leaves short of Riley insulting him with like an MLE level offer. But honestly...

    Russell/Clarkson
    Wade/Lou
    Deng/Ingram
    Randle/Nance
    Whiteside/Black

    That's actually got the potential to be a playoff team.
     
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