Los Angeles Lakers: Searching for the Perfect Dump

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  1. revgen

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    ^That's why I prefer Bogut's 1 year deal if we go after a defensive big man in a dump situation. Also, Bogut and Luke have a relationship, so he'll be easier to integrate into our foundation.
     
    revgen, May 4, 2016
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  2. therealdeal

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    Totally. If we don't find the Center of our future, Bogut is a huge dump target for me.
     
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    Can someone explain the Rose angle to me?? We have Russell and Clarkson already...
     
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    The Rose angle has two paths:

    Get Butler, while taking back Rose's deal
    Get Rose AND Gibson from the Bulls

    I don't really know how that's going to work if we get Rose and Gibson and we keep Clarkson and Russell....
     
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  5. therealdeal

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    Take back an expiring that might include a pick or something hopefully so that you can get a preview of Rose while preserving cap space for next summer.

    Think of it like the Lin deal, but on steroids.
     
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    People on here excited about dumps

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    sirronstuff, May 4, 2016
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  7. fabfourlakers

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    I don't think the Bulls give us a pick if they dump Rose and Gibson since they both are expiring anyways. I still don't know why the Rockets gave us a pick along with Lin...but I don't expect that to happen. They'll dump Rose WITH Butler, which will enable us to give them LESS for Butler since we're taking back Rose's deal.
     
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    Why dump both of their star players? Dumping Rose clears up cap space for them plus gets rid of a player that's been a pain in the neck recently. If they trade one, they're keeping the other. They're not giving their two best players to us.
     
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    If they trade us Butler, it would mean they're rebuilding. Why keep Rose at that point through the rebuild? Since we have the cap room to take his contract, it would make sense to send us Rose too while we send #1 pick and Clarkson. And for us, it makes sense because when Rose's contract expires next summer, that'll open up that max slot to get Westbrook.
     
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  10. therealdeal

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    Wait you don't think we're getting their two best players for the #1 pick and Clarkson do you? To get Butler AND Rose we'd have to send probably the pick, Russell, Clarkson, and maybe more.
     
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    Of course I think we're getting both those guys for #1 pick and clarkson. We are helping the Bulls out by taking Rose back. Rose isn't the 2011 MVP rose anymore dude. Bulls fans that I know have basically said that he's going to be a salary dump this summer if they get rid of Butler. So it makes sense for them to salary dump him to us, and then we basically rent him for a year before we go out and get Westbrook.
     
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  12. therealdeal

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    I'm sorry fab, but there's no way we get their two best players for a pick and a prospect. That's not going to happen. If the pick was that valuable, we'd go get Paul George or something.

    Not to mention absorbing both Rose and Butler means we would barely have any money left for ONE max free agent. Their combined salaries total 39 million dollars or so and we'd be left with just about 21 million. That amount may be just enough to get Whiteside or Barnes, but that's it. Otherwise we're going shopping in the veteran isle which means instead of Horford, you're talking about maybe Pachulia or *gulp* Howard.
     
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    I would love to NOT take Rose along with Butler but my feeling is the Bulls will try to push Rose onto us so they can truly rebuild. So yeah, I'm down for just Butler for #1 pick and Clarkson.
     
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    I get how we would acquire him, but my main question is about fit. Russell, Clarkson, & Lou... I just don't see a need. If it somehow makes it easier to get Butler, sure but the need is definitely not there
     
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    If we strike out on every FA we want, then it's not about need it's just $$. That's the only way I want Rose as a dump candidate.
     
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    remember this is all assuming the rest of FA is the disaster it's been the past two years. the lakers have 60 in space. having 15 eaten up by dead weight while pursuing westbrook next year isn't the end of the world. and the upside is that if chandler is able to play, the lakers could win some games and actually be attractive to FAs as an up and coming team. had the lakers been able to get a chandler-level player instead of a hibbert-level player last summer, maybe the Durant chase wouldn't be such a joke.

    anyway, I'm not suggesting this as option A by any stretch of the imagination. it's like, option Q. I just don't have a lot of faith that any of options A-K are likely. or, given recent history, I'm not positive the FO has planned past option C. I almost think magic Johnson is running this thing.
     
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    I disagree actually I think there's some good signs that they've got a great plan cooking. I think the Lakers are still going to pursue the obvious guys in LeBron and Durant, but once those two don't work out I see them building around the younger guys a little more.

    I still think ultimately they trade the pick if they get it for a solid player, but overall I think they do their best to build around Russell and Randle so a move like Chandler could be something we see.
     
    therealdeal, May 5, 2016
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    Bogut: Australian for Dump




    Sorry, that was really, really lame.
     
    Savory Griddles, May 5, 2016
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    Channing Frye.
     
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    good idea, plus didn't he play with luke at Arizona? or did they miss each other by a year?

    anyway, it would surprise me if Cleveland dumped him, even given their cap situation.

    I do think that mozgov is a viable center option, though, given that same situation.
     
    abeer3, May 8, 2016
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