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  1. shoe

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    ^ I'm obviously not calling you dumb. Not handing the ball off to your star RB just to prevent him from getting Superbowl MVP is dumb. If Wilson's pass is incomplete instead of intercepted, they were most likely going to hand it off to Lynch the next 2 times and if he scores - BAM! Lynch is MVP

    I agree that it was a bad call, hell I even said if it was me, I would have handed the ball off to Marshawn on 2nd, 3rd and 4th down (no guarantee he even gets in the endzone btw)....but I don't think this is the worst call in NFL history. Butler read the play and made a great jump on the ball.
     
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    I think if you take out circumstantial factors, it's not the worst call in history... but given the fact that it's the Super Bowl and it's 2nd down and it's Marshawn Lynch and it's a pass over the middle... I mean it all adds up to definitely one of the dumbest calls of all time.

    Like I said if you really must pass the ball, throw to the corners so it's more likely to go out of bounds if it gets tipped. Don't throw over the middle into traffic. Very few QBs can make that pass work and Wilson isn't one of them.
     
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    If it's not the worst call in NFL history I'd like to know what is. The situation exaggerates what would have been a horrible call even in a regular season game. But: last minute of the Super Bowl down 4 and on the 1 with a timeout and needing to burn some more time so Brady won't have time to get a tying FG. And IF you have to pass don't call one that is designed to throw it into the teeth of the D.

    To me, it's easily the worst call ever.
     
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    That's how I read it as well when I saw Carroll's comments. It's on the OC, he was just taking the bullet.
     
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    Yup. Carrol does not call his team's plays even going back to his Trojan days.
     
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    In that situation he NEEDS to make the call though. It's his team, his responsibility if it fails. If he didn't make the call, the blame still falls on him for letting the play happen.
     
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    ...so, uuummm, should Wilson have called an audible or was he too much of a Boy Scout there? Anybody feel a Brady, a Rodgers or any "established" signal caller would have changed the play?
     
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    You can call that play and throw it away, throw it to the outside, throw it to the back of the end zone - anywhere but there. That was a total blunder by Wilson, too.
     
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    Too much criticism is being given to the play call....I still don't think Butler is getting enough credit for making an awesome play on the ball.

    This was more about Butler making a play instead of Carroll calling a bad play.
     
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    I don't think so man. I think everyone is really impressed with what the kid did, but if you make the right play call that opportunity doesn't even present itself. If you run the ball, the Butler kid never even gets a shot at it.

    He made a great read and a perfect play on the ball, but it's still on Carroll and the OC for making that call.
     
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    If you run the ball, there's still no guarantee Lynch get's in. Everyone just assumes Lynch would have scored.

    I'll say it again, if I'm the coach, I'm rolling with Lynch...but I understand why Carroll did what he did.
     
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    Fine, but if you must pass why are you passing over the top?
     
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    You had plenty of time and a timeout to make that initial play. If he didn't get in, timeout. Next play. The issue was not that he didn't go with Lynch, it was that he went with a passing play risking an interception.

    Sure New England may have expected Lynch to get it, but the other option could have been Russell running it in, again, not presenting that opportunity of an interception.

    And at the least, should have run a play action if they were going to make that pass, make the defense commit first.
     
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    Maybe that's a play they worked on in practice, who knows really.

    I think we can both agree that it would have made more sense to run some sort of play action bootleg/pass to the corner of the endzone
     
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    I would have at least tried to run it first. It was only 2nd down with time and a timeout.

    Then I'd give the passing play a shot, with Lynch still lined up in the back to keep the defense honest.
     
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    Pretty much any play would have made more sense than that play. Definitely a play action and/or a corner fade makes way more sense.

    Running it makes way, way more sense though.
     
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