Mosgov And Deng Situation

I'm not an expert on this, but here's how I understand stretching a player.

After this season, we could waive Mozgov - in fact, I think we could do it now and have him count for having only three years left on the contract and at 48M total. We could stretch that over seven seasons (2*3+1), to about 7M per season. Just thinking about what the market for him would be, I can't imagine anyone paying him more than $6M per season. Let's be cute and suppose that he plays for three more years after this - the length of his original LAL contract.

Salaries don't offset at 1:1 when someone picks up a player who has been waived. The formula is: 1/2 difference between new salary and minimum vet salary for season in which he's waived. Minimum for him is about 2M. The difference there is 4M (6m-2m), so we'd reduce our responsibility by 2M per season for those seasons he's employed.

This means we'd be responsible for:
2017-18: 5M
2018-19: 5M
2019-20: 5M
2020-21: 7M
2021-22: 7M
2022-23: 7M
2023-23: 7M

That sounds awful, but a) I'm not sure it's accurate and b) I'm not sure it's worse than being responsible for ~16M for three more seasons.

 

If you just put it out there no one will take it. If you put a "For Sale" sign someone will steal it.

 

I think we should turn the swearing filter off for this thread. We're going to need ALL the words to properly tackle this.

 

haha

 

Honestly I may be more upset with the crappy protections he built into the picks we traded for Howard and Nash. If we had more reasonable protections, we wouldn't have had to tank so hard the last couple years.

 

If that's what happens, then the 7M figure I suggested would be less, and so would the 5. If you're Mozgov, though, would you walk away from that much money?

Assuming I'm right about how to calculate these things - and it's from looking at the CBA - then the 48 would go to 24, the total would go to 3.4M per year, and the 6M a year figure would drop our responsibility to 1.4, 1.4, 1.4, 3.4, 3.4, 3.4, 3.4. Much more manageable, but double that if we stretch Deng, too.

 

There's nothing much we can do for the time being.

- We could waive them (stretch provision), but all that does is get them off the team. We'd still be responsible for their full salary. The way it works financially is that we'd pay them the remainder of their salary equally over the next 7 years (double the length of their contract, plus one). For Deng that means he would eat 7,7142,857 million of our cap every year. Mozgov's stretched contract would be 6,857,143 million of our cap. I'm not positive, but I think you have to have less than 15% of your cap taken by stretched players. This would mean we couldn't stretch anyone else for 7 years and we'd have a guaranteed 14,571,429 million of dead salary for those 7 years.

- We could bury them on the bench for the next 3 years until they leave (especially Deng).

- We could try to package them with a couple of our kids for a good player and a slightly better contract (George + Al Jefferson).

- We could wait two years until the lengths of their contracts are no longer a burden and then try to trade them at that point.

- We could try to trade them for nothing to some dingus team like Sacramento hoping they bite for a "veteran presence" like Mitch did.

 

I mean... the guy was coming off an All-Star year. It's not like he was a bum the day we signed him. He was a bum basically the start of the year when he got hurt, but right before that he deserved to get some cash. I don't blame him for taking the contract.

I do blame Nash for purposely playing enough games in order to cheat us out of cash when it was clear he should have medically retired.

 

We're pretty much f***** in this situation. I can see us possibly moving Mozgov with other good pieces, but not Deng, he's untradable.

 

One of them doesn't destroy the team, but two of them together makes it so hard for us to make serious noise over the next three years.