Magic Johnson Discussion

You do realize you don't have to address it if it doesn't pertain to you. I didn't see you coming in addressing others when they were addressing me. So what's it to you?

The individuals know who I'm addressing and if they don't like it, I hear that ignore feature is a nice lil feature.

Btw the narrative is that Magic deaded the potential Kawhi signing. I'm making commentary on a recent narrative. Ask yourself why this thread was bumped in the first place.

What's it to you if I show examples where the FO needs addressing? Isn't discussion part of a discussion board?

 

So Real, you weren't here for most of last season...so maybe that thing about beating a dead horse, lil ol me had nothing on the mob last year. Weez knows...he was here.

As for this Magic vs Rob thing...y'all made that up and chose to put me in a particular camp. So when others stare Magic should keep his mouth shut and he ruined the Lakers, I don't see any of y'all telling those fine folk to cool their jets. What makes me such a special case?

Was this thread bumped to address a particular narrative? I made comments diffusing those narratives and pointed out that there was possibly more to why our top choices keep dismissing us.

How is that beating a dead horse when that narrative literally came out the previous day in the Athletic's cover story?

As for folks taking my stance on. Y'all made me out to be Magic's boy when I have criticized Magic on certain matters I wasn't f'n with him on. Meanwhile, y'all think our FO is doing "excellent" work...so I'm addressing that matter accordingly.

Lastly Real, thanks for normally thinking I'm cool, but with all due respect, who is you to evaluate if/when I'm cool or not? Haha.

 

Ty Lue? Didn't want 3 years and didn't want Kidd. Got the big head thinking he was a championship coach cause of him. 0-18 without LeBron in the lineup. Didn't have the balls to bet on himself and will never sniff a head coaching gig again. Glad we have Vogel and thankfully we don't have Lue for 5 years.

Who else .... Kawhi? Clipper snake? Well under the best of assumed chances for us if he truly was open to the Lakers the whole time this year after he said it last year .... then what Mag did just prior to ALL of free agency and opening his yap again after he gets a chance to have that all important interview with KL ... sure as **** hurt KL's perception of us (extremely likely) starting the night of the last game of the Lakers season.

Maybe those reasons figured in?

 

@LTLakerFan Coaching isn't my forte. I mean I was a strong advocate for Luke and most coaching experts said he wasn't the right X&O's guy. Those same folks (LFR, Cranjis and bfc - when he still posted here) all said that Lue was a great x&os coach. So I feel I got to look at our coaching with a different lens.

Lue was clearly our first choice via all the leaks during our coaching search. Also Vogel was rumored to be our lead assistant anyways with that configuration.

And with Lue we coulda had a Doc clone anyways, which eliminates the coaching advantage the cLips had on us.

In terms of a max slot for free agency...when Magic stepped down he gave us 3 months before free agency started to find a worthy candidate. If we struck out then at least I would applaud the effort...we didn't even conduct a PBO search.

Then we have free agency in which the FO has stated we are going to go big game hunting. Fans were mad last season about it, yet there was few of us that preached patience and to judge the FO after the summer. If they couldn't deliver, the pitchforks should come out then.

And, here we are.

Still, I love that we got AD and you absolutely have to go for Kawhi if he's a realistic option. Yet, what I don't like us that we didn't use an asset (our cap space that took 2 years in the making) to gain back lost assets in the AD trade (some assets were lost rather unnecessaryily imo).

Then we come to find out, we weren't even really in play for any other max guy besides Kawhi.

Still through all that, I wouldn't mind that we struck out had we had a more palatable contigency for my liking.

It doesn't matter if Magic was still here or not...I would have remained patient with how we approached this summer and when our plan As were not realized and we went with what we ended up going with, I would have cut into Magic as well, hoping Jeanie could restructure the FO to bring in more savvy execs.

 

Kawhi was never coming here...if he was, he would have signed the first day of free agency and not waited for the Clippers to make a move.

Clippers were always his first choice and he helped them get PG by recruiting him (which he'll deny of course)...

Did magic have anything to do with it? No, likely not. Lakers did their best but it didn't matter...end of the day, we still filled out the roster rather nicely and we're actually quite a deep team...only thing we're missing is a solid wing defender...can only hope some buyouts happen (Iggy, MKG, Crowder etc) and we pounce on them immediately

 

I was going to let your other post slide...but f*** it, round and round we go...

Where it stops is where you start to open your eye.

For a guy that claims to see it all, you sure have manna, uh mono vision. Why don't you go back and see why TIME bumped this thread in the first place.

http://lakersball.com/threads/magic-leads-to-snakes.3422/

But nah, you rather "spin" it another way. And I don't have to "ask myself why". I already know. Sure seems like you're sour-on someone or something (could be that dirty laundry you like staring at).



And you acting like I'm the one with an agenda. #CoolStoryBro or do you need to go post more Magic tweets to make it more "obvious."

Our FO leadership needs help. Magic stepping down was actually a blessing to accomplish that. Go ahead and come at me on that matter. But try to leave that weak Magic fan boy innuendo out the discussion, unless that's all you have to stand on. In which case...#AgainCoolStoryBro

@therealdeal I would like to respect your post, but till you go back and read up on what happened last year, I can't honor your opinion on the matter. And frankly it ain't worth your time.

But all I know is not once have I labeled you a Rob fan boy, while you have used my affinity towards Magic to descredit valid concerns about Rob.

Fact of the matter is we didn't get our first choices this summer. That means our FO can't close. When Magic was here, we were still doing goofy s*** with our cap/assets. He's gone now, so let's address the rest of our current configuration. Cause if it was all the way right, we would have had our first choices and a better contigency in place imho.

I don't mind if you want to play off me being a Magic advocate. But if that is your major contention in descrediting my posts, you know you can do better than that.

We either keep more of our assets by trading AD into our space or you go nuclear so that we have AD and a max guy. We went nuclear for tier 2 role players and we somehow forced our 35 y/o star to play with more ball in hand and forced our star PF to play a position that he doesn't want to gravitate towards since both Mcgee/Boogie have health and durability concerns. With 30m+ in cap space and no 1yr stop gap limitations in contract offerings, how can you sincerely say our roster is well balanced?

Imo we could have done better in either rounding out the roster or gaining lost assets back via our cap. I guess we can agree to disagree on that matter.

Btw, I'm still a cool guy....I'm just keeping it real, which is something I thought you would be cool with. What's your deal? Haha.

 

Damn it Weezy I have LSS last song syndrome I'll be singing this all day

 

wow ur so old dude

when is that from? The 1920's LMBO?

 

I actually see your points on where Rob screwed up or could have done better. We've seen other teams accept players on 1-year deals while gaining assets in the process where as we threw away assets (granted not as asset rich as other assets but nonetheless, they're assets) to not end up with a superstar (Kawhi) and then spent money on tier 2/3 guys without gaining those assets back that we threw away. I see that completely and that is something I will say Rob has to be better at, because if we don't win it all, we're going to be barren on assets moving forward and it's just going to be tougher to rebuild the roster in the future. Luckily, we do have great scouting, so we can find gems in the late first or second round, and even through G league you can get some rotation players if you develop them right (Caruso, JWill, Jemerrio Jones etc). So in that sense, Rob is creating more pressure on himself, our scouting and our whole front office to really hit on their picks and their sleepers because we've given a lot of assets away to go for the home run right now. I don't have a major issue with it like Vash does, but I do see why he's calling Rob out on it. He's not even saying that Magic is so amazing and Magic is awesome (He criticized Magic big time on letting Lopez walk), I think he's just saying that Rob isn't that much better than Magic and he's swinging right now for big moves but if things don't go right for us....we're gonna be very asset poor when we could have avoided it while making these big moves (easier said than done though).

Overall though, I'm not going to sweat these details...I think Rob killed it this summer and I believe he'll get better as a GM. Just no more Heath Ledger stories please.