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    I'm about to run positional efficiency numbers for the first two games. If you find other interesting stats, feel free to post them.
     
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    POSITIONAL EFFIENCIES
    100+ superstar
    90+ star
    80+ starter
    60+ reserve

    PGs
    Clarkson 60
    Huertas 59
    Russell 50
    TEAM: 62

    Wing
    Young 87
    Kobe 76
    Williams 72
    Clarkson 69
    TEAM: 65

    BIG
    Hibbert 117
    Kelly 67
    Randle 49
    Bass 43
    TEAM: 73

    Scoring Efficiency: Brown 9.13, Young 7.19, Kobe 6.52; TEAM 5.83
    Passing Efficiency: Huertas 3.92, Williams 3.09, Kelly 2.70; TEAM 2.63
    Hustle Efficiency: Hibbert 4.47, Sacre 4.08, Kelly 3.14; TEAM 2.72

    Some interesting SYNERGY stats I do.
    Points Produced Per Possession
    Brown 1.67
    Young 1.65
    Huertas 1.40
    Hibbert 1.29
    Williams 1.21
    Kelly 1.15
    TEAM 1.14
    Clarkson 1.14
    Russell 1.08
    Kobe 0.99
    Bass 0.93
    Randle 0.83
    Sacre 0.50
    Black 0.00
     
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    Deep down Byron knows this stuff doesn't matter. It's all about manning up.
     
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    It's all about motivation.

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    :This: wants to see how it ends.....
     
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    Why is jordan clarkson so low? Below 70 in each position?
     
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    69 isn't terrible. I'll check the stats. Probably not enough assists and hustle.
     
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    PG
    Clarkson 63
    Huertas 61
    Russell 56
    TEAM: 61
    -All of the PGs have improved a bit. None of them are playing particularly well.

    Wing
    Williams 73
    Clarkson 71
    Kobe 70
    Young 66
    TEAM: 64
    -Young has come back to earth (he's consistently in the 60s because he can't do anything but score). Kobe has crashed a bit. Clarkson is up a tick, and Williams is steady.

    BIG
    Hibbert 95
    Randle 70
    Bass 67
    Kelly 58
    Black 45
    TEAM: 73
    -I didn't expect Hibbert to stay at 117, but he's in good shape at 95. Randle and Bass have stepped it up to respectable levels. We don't know how to use Black. Kelly was awful all last season.


    Scoring: Williams 6.42, Young 6.42, Clarkson 6.39; TEAM 5.7
    Passing: Huertas 3.95, Russell 3.11, Kobe 2.81; TEAM 2.6
    Hustle: Hibbert 4.08, Bass 3.30, Kelly 3.02; TEAM 2.8
    -I cut out the guys who haven't played enough to be on the list. Look at the top scorers: no Kobe.
    -Huertas and Russell will probably be tops on the passing efficiency all season. Kobe and Clarkson will probably duel for third.
    -This team sorely lacks players who hustle efficiently outside Hibbert.
     
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    PG
    Clarkson 64
    Huertas 61
    Russell 59
    TEAM: 60

    Wing
    Williams 72
    Clarkson 70
    Kobe 69
    Young 64
    Nance 40
    Peace 39
    TEAM: 63

    BIG
    Hibbert 84
    Black 80
    Randle 70
    Bass 67
    Kelly 58
    Peace 57
    Nance 35
    TEAM: 73
     
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    Points Per Possession Consumed
    Brown 1.67
    Peace 1.50
    Huertas 1.31
    Young 1.30
    Clarkson 1.22
    Black 1.17
    Williams 1.14
    Hibbert 1.14
    Russell 1.14
    TEAM 1.12
    Randle 1.09
    Kelly 1.04
    Bass 1.00
    Nance 1.00
    Kobe 0.99
    Black 0.50
     
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    I see we have Schrödinger's Black on the team. Both good and bad at scoring.
     
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    Sorry. The second one is Sacre.
     
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    PG
    Huertas 72
    Russell 60
    Clarkson 58
    TEAM: 60

    Wing
    Williams 71
    Kobe 68
    Clarkson 62
    Young 62
    Peace 60
    Nance 43
    TEAM: 62

    BIG
    Hibbert 85
    Peace 74
    Randle 66
    Bass 68
    Black 59
    Kelly 58
    Nance 45
    TEAM: 70

    We suck.
     
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    damn. come up with some new metrics that aren't depressing.
     
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    PG
    Huertas 72
    Russell 62
    Clarkson 59
    TEAM: 60

    Wing
    Williams 76
    Kobe 68
    Clarkson 64
    Young 57
    Peace 49
    Nance 41
    TEAM: 62

    BIG
    Hibbert 84
    Bass 81
    Peace 63
    Randle 63
    Black 59
    Kelly 58
    Nance 49
    TEAM: 71
     
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    PG
    Huertas 74
    Russell 62
    Clarkson 59
    TEAM: 59

    Wing
    Williams 69
    Kobe 67
    Clarkson 64
    Young 57
    Peace 51
    Nance 36
    TEAM: 61

    BIG
    Hibbert 82
    Bass 82
    Randle 65
    Peace 61
    Kelly 61
    Black 59
    Nance 42
    TEAM: 69

    Basically, we have almost no one playing well enough to start - on offense, at least.
     
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    BTW, his passing score is so low compared to last year because he's not being as ball-dominant (which is good, I think), and his hustle isn't that great either - doesn't really block shots, grab o-reb, or steal the ball. And his scoring is only good - not exceptional or even very good. He'll get there.
     
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    Killing some time until Notre Dame plays tonight, so I figured I'd run some numbers. I'm looking only at Scoring Efficiencies, and I'm looking at Standard Deviations. I looked at all players who played at least 500 minutes last season.

    Scoring Efficiencies
    Incredible (6.88+) (Three Standard Deviations Up)
    No one

    Excellent (6.38+) (Two SD Up)
    Anthony Brown (MINUTES*) B-grade

    Above Average (5.88+) (One SD Up)
    Young 6.06
    Clarkson 5.95
    Williams 5.94

    Average (4.88-5.88)
    Kobe 5.85
    Randle 5.37
    Hibbert 5.36
    Sacre 5.35
    Peace 5.34
    Russell 5.33
    Bass 5.08

    Below Avg (4.38<x<4.88) (One SD Below)
    Nance 4.49
    Huertas 4.51

    Poor (3.88<x<4.38) (Two SDs Below)
    Kelly 4.33

    We have three guys in the top 20% in the league in Scoring Efficiency (only 75 of 366 qualified players were that good). We also have one guy - Kelly - in the bottom 3% (only 12 of 366 qualified players were that bad).
     
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    Why do you say Jordan's hustle isn't great?
     
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    It's a stat. I'm just talking about what I call "hustle efficiency." It's not great for the reasons I mentioned - because that's what the stat measures :)

    Ideally, a hustle stat would include 50/50 balls and things like that, too, but this is a box score metric.
     
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