Driving around in a van, Negan with zero f bombs and to top it off, we don't know who the hell got his head smashed . I hope we'll find out who got killed in the next few weeks... someone has to talk .
I thought it was super lame that they didn't show who died. Don't rob us of that emotional moment! It's stupid that we wouldn't be able to see it and know what's going on. When they come back next season, we'll have had months to prepare ourselves and the emotion of the moment will be mostly lost by then. Stupid decision by them, really awful. Other than that, I loved the episode though. They spent all that time tearing Rick down and revealing exactly how powerful this Negan guy is. All the little ways he forced Rick to go the direction he wanted? Brilliant and chilling at the same time. I thought Jeffery Dean Morgan was FANTASTIC as you'd expect as Negan. Holy crap. I mean sure Negan is a hard, hard R-rating in the books but this version of him is still scary as all hell. I can't wait for where this story is going to go, but man they wimped out by not giving us who it was. My guess? Daryl. I like him, but what's left for his character?
So next season is probably gonna be: Episode 1: Morgan and Carol Episode 2: Enid Episode 3: Stuff going on in rest of Alexandria Episode 4: Stand alone episode with Jesus Episode 5: Negan origin story Episode 6: Negan origin story continued Episode 7: Flashback of main characters in line up Episode 8: 90 minute episode of Lucille in slow motion, finally revealing who got killed at the very end
I loved the episode until they ruined it completely (and retroactively the entire second half of the season) by having such a s***ily executed cliffhanger. How many gotcha fake-outs did they want to shove into a season? Just lazy and lame. Show the goddamn death and let that percolate for a good 6 to 7 months. The survivors are obviously still up s**t creek so let that be the cliffhanger. Looking forward to how/if they could take on the Saviors is all the incentive they needed to draw viewers back. By denying that climax and stretching it over months, you completely deflate any tension and emotional investment viewers had in that scene. This was one of the more stupid decisions in the history of stupid decisions when it comes to television. That ending alone has me contemplating whether or not I want to continue watching this show anymore.
The episode was drawn on to me. it didn't need the Carol side story. But I thought Negan at the end was fantastic. Yeah, he didn't curse as much, but I believed that was the Negan from the comics. They got him right, and that was important because he is the biggest villain from the the comics (that I have gotten up to. I need to catch up). I didn't like that they left the cliff hanger like that, but honestly, that's what this show does. I'm not mad because I kind of expected something like that. They repeat similar tropes, but I like TWD a lot anyway, so it doesn't really bother me. It is what it is, and for all of this show's faults, I look forward to seeing it each week. Spoiler: Comic spoiler, and theory of who got killed It's either Glen or Abraham that got killed I think. Both die in the comic, and if they're following the comic, it will be Glen. Unless they want to wimp out and have it be that other dude from Alexandria so they don't kill off any of the main cast.
After the first Lucille hit, negan remarks something along the lines of "still up and ready for more". Makes me think Abraham. Unless that was a red herring and its glen.
Like lakersyunowin said, prolonging the reveal till next season really deflates the tension. So IMO, Glen or Darryl is the only one whose death would still hit hard (because based on what Negan said and obvious plot armor, it's definitely not Rick or Carl). Based on the clues, Abraham makes the most sense and I would've cared pretty strongly about his death if it happened during the finale. But in 7 months, I honestly won't care too much if he bites the dust. Or any of the other characters in the line-up for that matter. I'm definitely still going to watch the show ... for now. But the games the writers play with the viewers are getting annoying. Because it doesn't seem like they're doing it for the sake of good writing. The Glen fake-out, the Darryl mini fake-out, and now this all just screams like AMC executives making these mandates on the showrunners to try to maintain ratings and media hype in their cash cow. If it ends up being Aaron and nothing else of significance happens in the season premiere, I might legitimately be done.
Well the big issue was that this was SUPPOSED to be Glenn. They saved him over and over and over again all season long and this was supposed to be final moment when he wouldn't make it out and you'd see it and it'd be graphic and rough to get through. All that saving sets up the most dramatic moment when no one will save him and we as an audience feel it even more. They set it up perfectly for him to die. Now it's Schrodinger's Dead Walking Dead Character and I don't care who it is. Right now nobody is dead and everybody is dead, but all I know is I'm not emotionally attached to any of them. We know it's not Rick or Carl. It sincerely doubt it's Maggie. No one would care much about Aaron or Rosita dying so I doubt it's them. My money is either Glenn or Daryl. Abraham, Sasha, or Eugene would also work but it wouldn't have the same weight. We were absolutely robbed by this ending. All the time they spent building to this moment and now we're going to wait 7 months and all that tension will dissolve. Horrible decision by the creative team in charge there. Just awful. Luckily they're getting into some truly intriguing stuff. The Kingdom, Neegan, the Hilltop... All of this stuff is gold. Hopefully they do it justice when we get back.
Butchered the cliffhanger big time here. Honestly what was the point in them doing that. Giving us several months of speculation? I'd rather take the months of grieving for the character instead. Now next season is going to start with the death of that character and we'll only care for a little bit because we have the new plot to worry about. That's sort of why I think it won't be a "big" character. I'm thinking its Eugene. We did see him give Rick the recipe for making ammo and that didn't happen in the comics. He's not popular enough a character to have a big death impact but not small enough a character where it'll just be brushed aside. I've been hearing that they haven't really filmed the Lucille-meets-head scene from a different angle yet. So even the actors themselves don't know who is dying
The last 10-15 minutes of the finale could have been avoided had Rick's group been smart about the whole situation. Completely self-inflicted wound in my opinion.
I really liked the finale, had no problem with the cliffhanger at all. Thought that whole scene was great, you can feel Rick's despair. I read somewhere that the next season starts from that exact point, and we get to see the beating. Who knows though... As to who gets it, I'm voting Abraham.
I liked everything except the cliff hanger. It was a really menacing episode. They showed Rick being completely torn down off his self appointed pedestal. Brilliant. Then they wimped out. That's what the writers said on Talking dead. I find that even worse than not telling us fans. That means the whole cast is going to sit around for months figuring out if they need to find other work? That sucks. Someone is going to come back to the show for one episode and then leave again? That's dumb and for an actor must be stressful. It makes me hate it even more.
Lends more truth to the theory that the writers/producers/showrunners chickened out and didn't have the balls to pick someone. They may say stuff like "oh we know all along who it is", but THEY probably also don't know who dies either at this point. They'll wait for contract negotiations/fan reactions to finally make their choice. What a bunch of hacks.
You guys are hard to please. I thought it was an awesome finale. The tension and stress they built up during Negan's speech was awesome. I didnt care for the carol story line though.
