Something I ran into regarding Ingram as a prospect; "Brandon Ingram has emerged as the most probable candidate to challenge Ben Simmons for the first overall pick in the 2016 NBA Draft. According to the projections of Kevin Pelton, Ingram would qualify as the second-best prospect just once in the past nine drafts (2012 behind Anthony Davis). Ingram is not far ahead of Jamal Murray based on Pelton's projections." In the past 9 drafts, 9!!!, Pelton's ranking would be 1) Antony Davis 2) Ben Simmons 3) Brandon Ingram That seems super legit to me.
it's pelton, so it's stat-based, right? simmons a) fills the box score and b) carries a pretty bad team. depending upon the formula, those two things together could really boost a rating, perhaps artificially due to the latter. did he publish the rest of the list?
i agree. no guarantee he gets there, but he's super long, mobile, and skilled. you can work with that.
Durant was ROY 8 years ago. If going off of college one and done, Simmons and Ingram might rank higher, but I don't think Simmons will have the career Durant has had. Odds are against him, numbers wise. I sure won't be upset if we get either one though. In fact, I'm really hoping we do.
I liked the Paul George comparison someone pointed out a few pages ago. I think its good because George took 3-4 years before really ballooning into someone special. Ingram is probably longer than George was and taller but the idea of what their games could become are similar.
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/vertical-comp--k-d--and-brandon-ingram-153255100.html Draft Express and The Vertical bring you a breakdown between Ingram and Durant. For those too lazy: Physically- Ingram is slightly longer than Durant was at the same age. Durant is the better athlete (especially off one foot), more fluid, and a bit stronger. Catch and shoot- Ingram has the tools to be great, but needs to work on range and making shots over defense. Durant could catch and shoot out past the NBA line. Isolation- Ingram is pretty good and actually had more PPP than Durant. This was Durant's most prized possession in college and stays true to the NBA. Pick and Roll- Ingram more natural at it and used it a lot in college. Durant barely used it in college, likes to reject the screen, but is good at it now. Finishing at the rim- Ingram is physically super weak, but still plays physical. Good with either hand, should improve. Durant was more explosive which made it easier. A lot of the same issues due to weak body. Post game- Ingram is pretty good, not great. Struggles against NBA length and strength. Durant had elite footwork in the post in college. Approach- Ingram is more likely to have a 20/8/5 game. Likes to pass, make the right play. Durant is more like to drop 50 points on you. Conclusion: Ingram isn't quite the prospect Durant was, but he's really good. He's DraftExpress' number one pick this year.
http://www.crossingbroad.com/2016/0...y-will-keep-the-sixers-from-the-top-pick.html “Philly can tank all they want. They’re not getting the first pick. Ain’t no way they—whoever ‘they’ may be—is sending that young man to Philadelphia." Hope Shaqs right! You owe us one NBA
Well Shaq thinks it'll be Simmons too so... He's not wrong in his thinking, but I'm not sure how rigged things are under Silver. They were certainly rigged in my opinion under Stern, but I'm not sure if Silver operates the same way. If we skip up to #1, then yeah maybe I'll call it a conspiracy too. Right now though I expect us to lose the pick altogether or maybe get #3 if we're lucky. It could end up being our worst nightmare: 1. Boston 2. Phoenix 3. Philadelphia 4. Philadelphia
shaq forgot the nba sent their good ol' boy (colangelo) up there. if there's a conspiracy, it's likely to be in their favor now.
Our chances aren't really that great though. We've still got a 44.2% chance of losing the pick altogether.
Yeah that's what I meant --- the chances of losing the pick are way too great. It's pretty much a coin flip.
We have more than twice the chance of losing the pick than getting the #1 pick. #debbiedownerisheretoday #1- 19.9 #2- 18.8 #3- 17.1 EVERYTHING ELSE- 44.2%
When was the last time the 2nd pick moved up to the 1st pick? And how many times has it moved outside of the top 3? That would be good to know.
