Stupid and Unnecessary things Byron says.....

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  1. Weezy

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    Yes, I do believe you were and it immediately rings a bell. Hard scanning the memory banks for something that happened almost 2 years ago now ha ha. Credit where it's due, got-damn you were right.
     
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    Are you seriously defending that idiot? Who gives a f*** if he's right or not? He always has to criticize the young guys. Never anything good to say. When you're a coach you're supposed to instill confidence in your players especially the younger ones. How many times has he put them on blast this year? I've lost count.
     
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    @abeer3 but he is the coach, instead of chirping about what he doesn't have, he should be worried about making the parts he does have work. I'd halfway agree with him if he was just an outside person making general comments on the team, but as the coach of a team that is young, struggling and already has had their confidence driven into the ground multiple times, you just can't talk about how they aren't good enough. These are kids not vets, they don't need to be hearing that crap on the brink of the worst season of their entire basketball careers. I just don't agree that those comments were necessary.

    @Weezy I saw it firsthand in Cleveland. I'm not surprised by any of this, just 100x more pissed off that it's the team I root for going down in flames. Either you hit on a young coach that can come in and establish himself or you play it safe and go for a veteran coach that has proven success (In wins added with team vs without + philosophy and reputation) or your choice is going to be disappointment.
     
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    Who cares if he's right? What kind of attitude is that? @abeer3 isn't saying Byron is the right coach for the Lakers. He's not even saying he's a good coach. The dumbest person in the world can be right occasionally. A broken clock is right twice a day. Acknowledging someone's correctness isn't an endorsement of their intelligence or wisdom. Even I am occasionally correct.
     
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    Both of you are 100% right. Byron shouldn't say these things, it's not his place. After all the crap he's put the team and the fans through? He has nothing nice to say about the kids. Nothing constructive. What does it do for their confidence to have their coach say they're not good enough? Nothing. It's stupid an unnecessary...

    But he is correct. These kids aren't ready. A large part of that is his fault for sure though. If these kids aren't ready, why haven't you prepared them better?
     
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  6. sirronstuff

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    Speaking of ..... Go take a shower you chump!! WTF?

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    imagine what dantoni would do with randle. push for a trade for channing frye? I can't even think about how bad and costly the lakers' last three coaching hires have been. I really think dantoni cost the team gasol (via final alienation) and kobe (via Achilles tear). Byron cost them two years of foundation building. mike brown cost them professional credibility in several ways.

    they absolutely must nail the next one.
     
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    ^ they will. One more with b0ron and Mike Dunlevy next :D
     
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    Ehhh. I just can't put this on the young guys. They need to improve in areas but this is just their first few seasons in the league. They are supposed to need improvement. They also need guidance and real leadership. They have received little to none of that.

    And I harped on Byron singling them out while giving the vets a pass for weeks at the beginning of the year. It was just a bad strategy and I honestly think the average shift manager at Burger King would have realized that. But not Byron. Nope. He has kept at it all year. Bizarre benchings, rotations, minutes played, quotes to the media, etc. just one big train wreck.

    And now he has completely lost the team. Worse, the young guys are picking up bad habits as I feared they would. There is no rhyme or reason to how they are used or how much they play so they have said f' it all. I don't like it but I get it.

    A lot of the lil' BS we see with this team would end pretty quickly with a strong leader at the helm. We don't have that on any level. Kobe has one foot out the door. The front office is the worst it's ever been. Byron is the worst coach in the league. We have goose eggs in pretty much every category except young talent.

    I could rant about this all morning but I'll just be saying the same stuff. We all know the real problems here. It's bad. Real bad. And it won't start to improve until the front office situation is addressed and Byron is fired.
     
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    This was my fear too. There are some "pro-tank" guys in my office, and I told them young players can't handle that crap like older guys. It will effect them, maybe permanently going forward.

    The tank is set. We aren't moving from this spot. Get Byron out TODAY. What's the worst case scenario? The Lakers go on an absolute tear and leapfrog Phoenix or Brooklyn? If that happened, it would actually be a great signal to free agents that we were being held back by S***-for-Brains. Jeanie needs to NOT hold to that stupid timeline of her brothers and dump Jim now as well. The stench and toxicity surrounding him is crippling this franchise. No one of any substance will sign on the dotted line here if he is still calling the shots. Listening to what league sources say, he might be a bigger deterrent than Byron.
     
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    Actually most people say the true decision maker in there, the one with most of the power, is Mitch. Jim is there as a quiet kind of facilitator and number cruncher, but Mitch holds most of the power. That's why you're hearing rumors that if Jim goes, Mitch will too because he makes most of the calls.

    I'd be fine if we kicked out Jeanie and Jim though and let someone else take charge. I was okay with giving them an adjustment period but here we are at the end of that period and... yeah. This summer is their last chance and it's not looking good.
     
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    I'm not sure about Jeanie yet. If she truly has little to no say on the basketball side of things, AND she is letting Jim f--- around this long because her father's dying wish was to give his son a fair shot at it, then I would be willing to give her a pass. But I worry her "answer" will be getting Phil to come back at which point we will be running an "antiquated" (by today's quickly evolving NBA standards) offense, and being coached by Eddie Jordan or someone like that. If Phil was willing to hire Luke Walton and let Walton run the hybrid system with bits of the triangle they run in GS, that's fine. But I think Jeannie will hire Phil, and Phil will then hire a triangle diehard.
     
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    At this point, I'm all for cleaning house. The sooner the better.
     
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    Yeah that's a legit fear. I'd be fine cleaning house, but whatever Buss child is in the scouting department has been doing a great job. It's too bad he'd be cleaned out as well.

    Let's just put Ryan West in charge.
     
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    There is no way that this topic
    Should be a 12 page thread
    He is truly just that stupid
    You want to shoot his head

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    I love how the first time Sirron suggested execution, everyone was like, "Whoa there! That's too far man!" Now it's like, "Yeah. Kill the bastard.":D
     
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    [​IMG] :Headbang:
     
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    I respect this. Needless to say, though, under a good coach guys like Isaiah freaking Thomas in Boston become All-Stars; Crowder becomes a quality NBA starter, etc. Now are those guys pieces to a championship squad. I'd argue they aren't, but what Stevens did is enhance the heck out of their value, so that if an offer comes knocking on the door for an All-Star those guys become trade pieces. That's what should have happened this year.
     
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