Kevin Love ‘will Seriously Consider’ Opting Out, Eyes Return To L.a.

Never lived there but it's called the mistake by the lake for a reason

 

Dan Gilbert deserves a love walking on him. NBA will continue to protect him. Agree that it's too soon for love to want out of playing with lbj and his justice league.

 

True or not, i realy hope it backfires and Gilbert gets screwed

 

Damn, you start 2-3 and the Love is already leaving...LOL.

I don't think the current problem is with Love/James; I think those two will be fine. The problem I see is Irving/Waiters/James...all three tend to dominate the ball and there may not be enough shots to go around for those guys including Love...since Lebron is the de-facto GM, if neither of them can fit in, I see Irving and or Waiters being traded for pieces that fit within the construct of that roster; more than likely Waiters being the one too go.

Also, there is a couple of things with that Love report; prior to him even going to Cleveland and his impending FA situation that both he and the Cavs knew was coming up, Love gave them an 'assurance' that he would resign with them; also, Love has to opt out that will enable him to sign for a longer-term more money type of deal. Will he look when he opts out at other options? He could depending how the situation plays out in Cleveland, but I don't think he'll A.) Leave money on the table B.) Come to a stronger conference to a weaker team C.) Leave Lebron and the chance to contend in the East for the next 4-5 years. It wouldn't make any sense from his perspective, IMO.

 

Although, on the financial end of it, Love can sign a shorter term deal and opt out for money when the new TV deal kicks in

 

Well, one thing the Cavs did that I liked was inserting Marion into the starting lineup; they took Waiters out and he will come off the bench. That should help temporarily. Also, I noticed during the Nuggets game, they are posting him more on the elbow and trying to get him more involved. Small sample size but he's still getting around the same FGA's that he's been getting his entire career; he's shooting a lower percentage, however.

To further validate your point on Love sacrificing, here's what Bosh said:

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"Everybody says they want to win. But when you start talking about sacrifice and doing what's right for the team, it's like, 'Wait a minute, I didn't mean that. I want to win, but...' There's always a conjunction with that. It's never what you think it is. And it's always like your weakest point where you got to do it."


"You just get your entree and that's it. It's like, wait a minute, I need my appetizer and my dessert and my drink, what are you doing? And my bread basket. What is going on? I'm hungry! It’s a lot different. But if you can get through it, good things can happen. But it never gets easy. Even up until my last year of doing it, it never gets easier."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chris-bosh-sacrificing-lebron-2014-10#ixzz3IhvIUWm3

By the way, if Love can't sacrifice some part of his game for a chance at contending for a championship, would we really want him? If he's leaving because Cleveland is imploding, I understand. If he's leaving, like Dwight Howard, who couldn't sacrifice being 2nd, couldn't handle the bright lights, do I really want somebody like that on my team leading them for the next 10 years? Nope. This is developing situation in Cleveland isn't only going to tell the story of Kevin Love the 'Free Agent' but Kevin Love the 'Character,' in the respect of how he handles the pressure, bright lights, games that matter going into May and June, etc...interesting to say the least.

 

I think there is something to the thought that the team is dysfunctional. Lebron has already called out guys for playing selfish and Waiters definitely looks frustrated at times. I think he will be the first guy to go, but Love potentially looking at the exit is believable to me for a couple of reasons.

First is that I think, for him at least, the Cleveland thing kind of came out of nowhere. The opportunity to get out of Minnesota and play with Lebron was probably like prayers being answered at the time. There was too much smoke regarding Love to LA before all of that. I think the interest in playing for the Lakers was legit but the Cleveland opportunity presented itself and he just jumped on it without giving it much a second thought. Honestly, I can't blame him for that.

But, playing with Lebron isn't quite the wonderful thing that ESPN makes it seem. You could read between the lines in comments all last season that all was not well between Lebron, Wade and Bosh. That's even more evident now.

The thing with playing with Lebron is that everything is great until you lose. Meaning that Lebron gets all the praise and glory when you win, but the fault for losses all falls on his teammates. Lebron has played with several All Stars and hall of famers, but when his teams fall short all you hear is that he didn't have enough help.

Love (and Waiters) are experiencing that first hand right now. If this team continues to struggle, the blame is going to always be on the rest of the team and never Lebron. I think that is going to wear on them. This team will gel eventually and play better, but I don't see them winning the title or making the Finals. When the media goes full blast on Kyrie, Waiters, Love, etc for the team failing to meet expectations, I would not be surprised at all to see a couple of them head to different teams.

 

I don't buy that Love is talking bailing 5 games in. Even if he wasn't 100% sure about what he was getting into with LBJ I don't think he's that spineless. I wouldn't even want a guy that would bail on that lineup that quickly. For what purpose? To be a solo-star stat padder over here after Kobe leaves? I DO believe he might be saying he wants the ball more but that's about it.

Look at this for what it is, just Sam Smith looking for hits. He just did another article today about how Kobe should head east. He's just looking to get a job at ESPN or elsewhere and get out of being a nobody writer @ bulls.com. Note he says "indications are", not sources said. "Indications" are subjective and whatever he feels like. He has absolutely no source on this.

Those guys are finding their way, he's 18 and 11 it isn't that horrible considering. They will figure it out unfortunately.

 

Two things: 1. Was the source that leaked the story lakers pr guy john black? Just kidding. 2. What does shaq have to say about playing and sharing the ball with lbj?

I think waiters is the locker room cancer and he and irving have never got along. Cle wanted to sell on waiters for a while but got no takers. Marion is a stabilizing force there but wonder if love digs the drama. Drama is fine when winning chips. Not when you are 04 or 11 lakers, or even 13 heat.

 

I don't believe this report one bit

 

Watching Lebron's play, if you can't coexist with that guy, you won't fit anywhere. I'm not a Lebron fan but that guy always looks for his teammates first. Why would anyone who doesn't like playing with him even consider playing with Kobe? Makes no sense at all. Bosh might not have been happy but he really wasn't shown any redpect. Wade was pretty clear that it was he and Lebron who ran the show. Love might be in a similar situation because of Kyrie, but he should find it much easier to establish his place in the pecking order with Kyrie than with ex champion vets like Wade and Kobe.

 

this is total BS

the cavs are 2-3 and people are already saying that their season is done. love isn't going anywhere

 

Remember when all this dysfunction happened in Miami? Fire Spo, trade Bosh, etc., etc... 2 rings later, ain't nobody remembers that.

It's early. New guys takes getting used to. I'm sure we all know from our years of playing pickup basketball.

HOWEVER, if by some miracle Love opts out and joins us, I say KEEP Randle. Love at C, Randle at PF. Randle can drive the lane with the best of them and play more inside, which opens up the floor for Love's outside shooting. No-brainer.

 

Plus Rondo...

If Randle pans out, that trio could seriously make some noise.

 

I wouldn't be so quick to call BS. No, I don't think Love is intending to go after a mere 2-3 start. However, it isn't out of the question to think he may be thinking it now seeing what his role is on the team. Like someone said, Love is turning into Bosh 2.0 out there and while Bosh was OK with that role at the stage of his career I am not sure Love is ready to take that role. That could be pretty important. Add to that the fact that it is in Cle and you could have a little fire with that smoke.