Can the Lakers Lure Kevin Durant? (Pincus Read Basketball Insiders)

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  1. Helljumper

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    The entire year before Lebron went to Miami, all the talk was about New York. Nobody even discussed Miami as a serious option until like a week before it happened if I recall correctly.

    If the young guys keep playing well and we keep our draft pick, screw the narrative, we're a very attractive free agent destination. Then if things happen a certain way in the playoffs (maybe GSW repeats with Barnes as a big contributer and decides to keep the team together, maybe OKC gets upset in the first round and Durant get pissed) why wouldn't Durant consider us?
     
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    We're a 13 win team. Miami was at least still a decent team. They had a superstar in his prime in D-Wade. We're neither. Things can change quickly. If we could acquire another star, but as of right now I don't see him giving it that much consideration. He's what 28? Never won a title. It's hard to see a guy who has never won a title come to a rebuilding team that is still probably at least 2 years away from competing for a championship.
     
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    Lebron and Bosh did not go to Miami because they were a decent team the year before lol. Miami pretty much got rid of everyone other than Wade just to bring them on. They went there because Miami is a cool place and they had a blank slate in terms of how to build the team.

    I'm not saying it's likely Durant comes here, but it's obviously within the realm of possibility so I don't get why people are trying to rule it out already.
     
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    LeBron and Bosh went to Miami because D-Wade was already there and he was a top five player in the league at that time. We don't have that. What incentive does Durant have to want to come here when we have no star as of yet? He wants to beat Golden State. Everyone does. The only to do that into the near future is to join a team that has a star or two. I just don't see it happening and that's fine we don't need him. All we need is to find a freaking coach and start this rebuild already. I think we'll be able to acquire stars in a couple of years when Russell and Randle develop, but not right now.
     
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    I'm saying that his incentive is a maximum contract to play basketball in Los Angeles with promising young players on a historically great team with the financial flexibility to bring on more stars.

    That is a valid incentive. I'm not saying it's going to outweigh the incentives that other teams offer ... but it might.

    Like really, if he decides he wants to lave OKC, and GSW decides they don't want to blow up their team for him, what other options does he have? I'm genuinely asking. I don't know. I'm assuming with the increase in the salary cap, there are going to be a LOT of teams with the cap room to sign him. But of those teams with cap room, I don't know how many of them already have legitimate superstars?

    Is he going to New Orleans to team with Anthony Davis? Portland to team with Damian Lillard? The Kings to play with Demarcus Cousins? Like there aren't many "super-teams" out there that he can just slide into. Wherever he goes, I think that team would have to find other pieces to put around him too.

    So call me crazy, but I truly think a combination of Russell, Randle, Clarkson, Nance, and Simmons all combined at the price of one max-player, is a more promising building block then any of the other relatively young "superstars" that are even out there. But you're right, that's what I think because I'm a Laker fan and I've watched these young kids play. To an outsider, maybe he just sees our record and automatically dismisses us. I don't know.
     
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    I think you sort of answered your own question early on: it doesn't make sense for Durant to leave okc unless it's to go to gs. any other move will legitimately shock me. even the gs option would surprise me quite a bit. if I had to lay odds, it would be at 75% okc, 20% gs, 5% every other place combined.

    for the lakers to rise out of that group, they'd need to trade for an allstar prior to FA. if the lakers get a star in his prime without giving up Russell, they're suddenly in play for all FAs, imo. but that's a longshot and would almost certainly require trading a top-3 pick.
     
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    Boston would make some sense for him, in that they would have a lot of cap room for him and someone else and are near the top of a weaker Eastern Conference. Of course if that happens, I'll riot.
     
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    They have a real coach too.
     
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    Exactly. That's precisely why I want to keep the pick this year. You'd have one more asset to add without giving much most of our young talent. A top-3 pick straight across for an impact player or a top 3-pick plus one of the young guys should net you something nice. If you can execute a trade for an All-Star before July 1st, you're looking really, really good.
     
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    If we don't get KD, he needs to go East. LBJ has got to get more competition to go against. Its beyond ridiculous
     
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    Before the season started I thought we had a chance to get Durant. But we really underachieved in a HUGE way this season under Boron. We should have been fighting for 30 plus wins but instead we'll probably top out at under 20. That's pathetic. On top of that Durant's recovered from the foot injury, OKC has played very well and is a top 4 team in the league.

    Barring a very early exit from the playoffs I think Durant will likely sign a one plus one deal. It just makes sense that he would try for one last run with Westbrook and Ibaka while also putting himself in the best monetary position. I don't see the move to GS happening, nor do I see him giving up what he has to play with the kids here. I'm sure he'd be most tempted by GS, the old if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. But I think he's enough of a competitor that he will try to go at them once again.
     
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    Maybe a question we should start asking with all the smoke twirling over there: is it worth it to call LeBron and gauge interest in a new city? I know everyone hates him, but I think it'd be hard for Durant to turn down a max deal next to LeBron James and if Cleveland continues to underwhelm, could he be convinced there's another path? Stephen A. Smith recently said LeBron will leave if he feels like Cleveland "doesn't appreciate him" or something along those lines.

    It's the pipe-iest of dreams, but it's something to keep an eye on. That's exactly the scenario the Lakers are looking for to save their skins this summer. LeBron's max is going to be roughly 29.5 million and Durant's would be 25.3 million. Even if the Lakers KEPT the pick, they'd have a little cash left over for ring-chasers. Either LeBron or Durant would be foolish not to look into an idea like that if they felt they could win right away.

    Heck you trade Randle + the pick for another guard (Paul?) and the Lakers could convert a very hostile takeover. It's got a 1% chance of happening, but the situation in Cleveland is definitely something to keep an eye on. I wonder who the Cavs double down on. I'd assume it'd be LeBron, but seeing the decline in his game this season would they be more willing to get younger?

    I know this idea is most of ya'll's worst nightmare :D so I don't expect many likes, but just something I thought about on the way to work this morning.
     
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    far from a nightmare, but man, that's a lot going right.

    i think boston is in the same boat as the lakers, with the caveat that their pick is guaranteed. still, though, given the composition of this draft, #5 won't net you a star. you really need top 3, i think. but yes, boston could make a move or two that makes them an interesting landing spot. as it stands right now, though, i think the lakers have one potential/likely allstar in the fold in russell, which is one more than boston has.
     
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    I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility we see Cleveland fall before the Finals. Their team chemistry is truly that bad. I also don't think it's out of the realm of possibility to see the Thunder fall early in the playoffs. The West is that tough.

    I do see it as the slimmest of chances that LeBron chooses to leave, but that's something I think the Lakers are going to try to look at this summer and gauge interest. I don't think it'll work, but Mitch and Jim will undoubtedly give it a shot.
     
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    I don't think Lebron would leave Cleveland again. He cares too much about being liked. I think he tries to recruit some guys to play with him in Cleveland and forces trades of the players he doesn't like. He wouldn't be "getting one for the land."
     
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    Probably. I wouldn't be shocked if he left honestly given that he's desperate for a ring to give his legacy some meaning. I think coming home was big for him until he realized coming home meant coming back to this s*** storm of a team and management. I'm not saying he'll be eager to leave in the summer, but I can definitely see him forcing trades to keep him. It just depends on who the Cavs want to double down on. I assume it'll be LeBron, but hey crazy things happen all the time.

    I'm just saying I think it'll be a call Jim and Mitch make and if you're Kevin or LeBron do you take that call and give it some consideration given your team's struggles?
     
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    No way Lebron leaves CLE again, not a chance. The PR hit he would take would be the mother of all PR hits
     
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    Literally zero chance LeBron comes here and has to fight through both the Warriors and the Spurs just to make the Finals. He will continue to take the path of lEAST resistance.
     
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    I outlined a similar scenario in other posts. Use Clarkson or Randle plus the pick to snag star number 1. Pitch Durant along with star numbe r2 at the same time, much the same way Miami did with Bosh and LBJ. The biggest issue with this is the "star" you're going to get with that package will likely be one that is less than optimal since they would be available otherwise. Cousins, Harden, Griffin...I guess Jimmy Butler is possible given how poorly Chicago has played this season, but I still doubt Clarkson + the pick (unless it's #1) gets us Jimmy Butler.
     
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    Would it really? I think it would be IN Cleveland, but elsewhere? He'd just be doing what he thinks is best to win a ring (regardless of it being LA or not). If he left to join another star and got closer to a title because goodness knows the Cavs aren't winning... I don't know...
     

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