Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

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  1. John3:16

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    I don't know what people are saying, but I agree with OReilly -- he's got 35% that are voting for him no matter what. That leaves 65% that aren't. That means 2 of the GOP candidates need to get out. Only way I see him losing the nomination.

    Imagine any president talking about another man getting on his knees or talking about the size of his "package."

    Cmon. This is just ridiculous.
     
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    I'm not willing to vote for Hillary just because she will be (presumably) slightly better in foreign affairs. I don't think that's really something to support. If one type of acid burns through my skin and the other burns all the way to the bone, I'm still going to stay away from those acids.
     
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    Well what do you mean by staying away from those acids then? Leaving the country? Because I agree that I do not want to chose between those two ... but if that's the only choice we have, then I take the acid with the slightly higher pH.

    That's idelogically. If that's what the choice comes down to practically, I could totally see myself just being too jaded to waste my own time to vote for either of them on Election Day.
     
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    Don't believe the media's spin.

    They have a pro Hillary agenda because they can, and do buy her vote for pro network media legislature.

    Bernie can absolutely take the nomination, even with Hillary's tricks. He's doing better than Obama was at this time in 08.

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  5. therealdeal

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    If we're forced to choose between Trump/Clinton then in all reality we ought to revolt. We ought to stand together as a public, join hands, refuse to vote, and incite change in the offices of what are supposed to be public servants.

    I hope Bernie wins the nomination. I disagree with his socialist views, but at least I respect him.

    I went back and watched the FOX debate last night and holy COW Trump is finally imploding. The guy looked like a complete moron last night. Rubio seems to be taking it upon himself to tear down Trump despite the fact that it takes away Rubio's opportunities to provide his own platforms. It makes me think that maybe Rubio has a inside track to some sort of position in Cruz's office. Trump was openly booed as the crowd quickly figured out how little Trump has to say and that all he has is personal insults. "Couldn't get elected dog catcher", "little Marco", and "lying Ted" were just so childish and embarrassing. This man cannot win the nomination. He tried to roll with my advice from a page or two ago where he was open about changing his mind and while it worked at times, he's just so unrelatable that Rubio and Cruz used it against him.

    Which leads me to Rubio who looked alright, but he's now muddying himself just to bring down Trump. He can't win my vote because I honestly don't have much time to even hear his remarks. He's spending all his time bashing (effectively) Trump.

    Cruz came out ahead of Rubio and Trump, but he too succumbed to the fray. His "breathe" remark was him treating Donald like a child and while it held entertainment value, it doesn't hold dignity. As a staunch Constitutionalist I'm not sure if he can win. His opinions are a little too rigid.

    The real winner was Kasich. My wife watched the debate with me and didn't even know who he was up there because he gets so little screen time, but every time he speaks I find myself agreeing with him. If I voted for one of those guys, it's him right now. He seems reasonable, has a track record, and has concrete ideas to improve the country. I wonder if he can beat Hillary Clinton though. I wonder if he has the personality to be a President, I don't know, but I like him more and more with each debate.

    Best line of the night:
    Cruz-"I hope we don't see any Yoga on this stage tonight"
    Rubio- "You never know, [Trump]'s pretty flexible."

    I laughed out loud. :D
     
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    Megyn Kelly had an agenda on Trump and executed it to perfection. She fact checked him so many times he couldn't even react, and left the door open for Cruz and Rubio to jump on it.

    I've listened to Kasich a few times too, and beforehand, and he seems the most levelheaded out of the bunch. But I think he's a wee bit moderate which is not going coerce the GOP. If he did win the nomination, and was running against Hillary, I would think there would be quite a few democrats that would be willing to vote for Kasich, and I think he would win.

    Picking between Hillary and Trump is already picking between the lesser of two idiots, remove either one and I think that party automatically wins.
     
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    Oh the FOX debate entirely was designed to beat up Trump. They were literally lobbing questions to the other candidates to take shots at Trump. I think one question was "do you find Trump's ideas naive?" or something like that.

    They may as well have asked "Is Donald stupid?" or "How much do you dislike Donald Trump and his campaign?"

    Although on the other hand FOX wasn't afraid to call out all the candidates so that was pretty cool. It was interesting watching these guys skate around questions. Cruz deftly dodged a couple of them by talking about the troops? It was pretty weird but it got the crowd cheering.
     
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    They pole people asking who wins head to head between each candidate.

    All the Republican candidates beat Hillary head to head on most poles while they all lose to Bernie head to head.
     
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    For those that like Kasic (which I do). He seems to have won the pole for who won last night's debate.

     
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    After last night, Kasich moved to #1 IMO. He has no chance of winning, but he overtook Rubio based on not lowering himself to Trump's level.
     
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    Real, I thought the same exact thing about Rubio/Cruz. Either Rubio is just too emotional and letting Donald get in his head, hence all the attacks OR its strategy. Rubio takes Trump down (and himself in the process) and then teams up with Cruz.
     
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    Yep that's pretty much what I'm expecting. I expect Rubio to latch on to Cruz as some sort of VP or some other cabinet member.
     
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    That guy who talked about FOX making this a real debate is 100% right. Absolutely 100% 100% 100% right. FOX beat the hell out of each of the candidates but especially Trump.
     
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    Dr Carson officially dropped out.

    Though he did not endorse a fellow candidate, he told the warm crown what they should be considering when choosing their president:

    1. Significant accomplishment in their life

    2. Ideas and policies that are clear

    3. How they treat others and their family — because that is how they will treat you, the people

    4. What have they done for America?

    5. Look at the people that they work with. Who are those people and what do they have to say? How are they able to collaborate with people?

    6. Ethical — we need ‘trickle-down ethics’



    Good man who never got a fair shot, IMO.
     
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    Super Saturday:

    Bernie won Kansas and Nebraska
    Hillary won Louisiana

    Cruz wins Kansas and Maine
    Trump wins Kentucky and Louisiana
     
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    That whole republican debate was a sham... It was set up so that Trump could get bullied just like he had been bullying everyone else... None of the candidates are worth picking. While I personally like Trumps ego, and his "I dont give a eff" attitude, Im pretty sure the dude aint president material... but you never know. None of these candidates are. The only one thats even remotely close are Bernie and Kasich, though Im sure neither of them will win..
     
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    I disagree completely. I watched the entire thing and while sure the main goal was to expose Trump, Cruz and Rubio were given tough questions as well. I thought the moderating of this debate was stronger than any of the other debates on the Republican side we've seen thus far.
     
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    Bernie wrecked Hillary in this debate in my opinion.
     
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    I'm no fan of either, but admit I hate Hillary. IMO, Bernie has killed her in every debate.
     

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