Jim and Mitch out in LA, Phil likely in?

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  1. LaVarBallsDad

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    If Jeannie does that, it feels like Mitch is an unfortunate collateral damage to Jim.
     
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    I'm torn. I want Jim out badly, but I still have a lot of faith in Mitch. And to be honest, I don't want Phil back. If Jeannie wants to clean house, she better give a serious promotion to Ryan
     
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    Sensationalist reporting is the worst
    Everyone wants to post a scoop first
    Jim Buss might be a B.M.
    But no one knows if Phil is even a good GM
     
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    Please show yourself the door as well Jeannie.
     
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    Wow, I guess I'll believe it when I see it. I thought they had until summer 2017. I'm not buying it yet. But let's face it, the record has not been good thus far in terms of wins these past two seasons and they haven't been able to pull in the top FA's. Thought they would at least get this summer to try and rectify that. This season has been horrific though. I'm at least glad to hear these rumors in the fact that they are speeding up the timeline and Jeannie will indeed hold her brother accountable.
     
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    how exactly has phil proven anything as a gm that mitch hasn't? the knicks attracted zero big name FAs and still suck. if it's about drafting russell over porzingis, the jury is still out on that one.

    i'll say this: whomever has been responsible for hiring the last three coaches needs not to be part of that process this time. but draft decisions and most player personnel decisions have been pretty good, imo. the lakers caught a lot of really bad breaks over the past few years to get here (chief among them the paul trade veto, nash's immediate and utter disintegration, and kobe's achilles injury). not many execs could do much with all that.

    anyway, i'm still happy with mitch, and i'm not sure i have any more faith in jeannie than i do in jim. get them both out of the basketball side and let the gm do his job.
     
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    Jim Buss should go... Kupchak stays. Jackson in... Camelot rises again.
     
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    The Lakers reportedly view the rest of the season as a tryout for Byron Scott.

    Unless Warriors assistant Luke Walton wants the job. Then, Scott is out.

    So says a notable Lakers rumormonger.

    Stephen A. Smith on ESPN LA on Scott:

    "I’m hearing he’s gone if Luke Walton wants to come in and take the job next season, that if he wants to do that, that obviously they would move beyond the Byron Scott era and bring in Luke Walton, that Luke Walton, however, as much as he loves the Lakers and California, may not find that to be an attractive job unless they position themselves to acquire somebody like a Ben Simmons. That is what I have heard.

    I have also heard that it’s very, very possible that Jeanie Buss is going to keep her word and fire her brother Jim Buss – thank the good lord – and that Mitch Kupchak may very well not be safe as well.

    How definitive that is remains to be seen. But that is the chatter in NBA circles."

    Walton played for the Lakers, and Kobe Bryant still respects him. Though Kobe will retire after the season, his endorsement could still carry weight – especially as it speaks to players’ perception of Walton.

    The Golden State assistant impressed while filling in for Steve Kerr as acting head coach. He has already been linked to the Knicks and Suns, and he could get other offers.

    If the Lakers keep their top-three-protected first-round pick, they’d have an intriguing job with D'Angelo Russell, Julius Randle, a promising rookie, matching rights for Arenas-provision-limited Jordan Clarkson and tons of cap space. If the Lakers lose their pick, the job would look a lot worse. Either way, staying in California and leading one of the NBA’s premier franchises could appeal to Walton.
     
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    I think you still gotta keep Kupchak. The man clearly had has hands tied to an extent the past few years having to answer to Jim. Over his career, he has proven that he has an eye for talent in the draft, as well as the ability to pull off beneficial trades.

    That being said, I am 100% for releasing Jim Buss, who I think was given too much say in basketball decisions, without any true basketball experience to support his position. Just don't punish Mitch as well. From Jerry West to Pat Riley, I don't want to let another quality front office guy get away from us. Plus, he's been a huge mentor to the younger West, which is understated as well.
     
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    NY isn't in bad shape.
     
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    Phil is not the best person to run the FO. Just sayin ;)
     
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    It should only by Ryan west and Mitch kupchak

    Recruiters should be Kobe and magic
     
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    Good news if true. I have been arguing for months that BOTH need to go. Mitch did bring us some rings, but it was in a completely different era in terms of the style of basketball and the current cap rules. Mitch won in an era where he already had the best player in the league handed to him by Jerry as a cornerstone. Mitch fleeced the Grizz for Pau, (yes, it turned out good for them with Marc, but at the time, you could say the Lakers were a little lucky). If that deal doesn't go down, we don't have two more rings. Essentially Mitch has been riding the Gasol deal for a long time. We seem to have drafted pretty well with Clarkson and Nance, but it's too early to tell on Russell, and Randle was the obvious choice at #7.

    But the second question...is Phil the guy to replace him? He's going to come in and stuff the Triangle down our throats, an offense that has only worked when the best player in the league (and they were the best players BEFORE the triangle got there) was on the roster. In every other instance, it has failed miserably.
     
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    I'm okay with this. Changes have to be made. Yes they've drafted well, but there have also been numerous poor personnel moves as well as the awful coaching hires. I think we need to clean house and get some new blood in the front office. That starts with Luke Walton. He's the perfect coach for this young group. He'll be able to grow with them and install his system and teach the young guys how to play as a team and get them away from selfish, isolation basketball.
     
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    I don't know how I feel about this. I'd rather have Phil than Jim because I think Phil has way more credibility with FA's. That said, FA's also don't seem to want to play in the triangle. I also like Mitch, and even more I wouldn't want to lose Ryan West, and we know Phil and Jerry West don't have a great relationship, and Phil is as petty as anyone so I don't know how that would work out. To his credit Phil has started to bring back some credibility back to the Knicks, and he changed that roster around and got rid of some bad players/contracts really quickly. Still, I just don't know, dude is stubborn as anyone else, he and Jeannie running things alone, scares me, I'd like Mitch and Ryan sticking around. Coaching, B0ron would be gone for sure, and at least we've seen Phil will take a chance on a first time guy, which could mean Luke.
     
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    This is the worst kind of sensationalism.

    Thibs did NOT say that. It was a quote "close to Thibs" that said he felt that way. Tom Thibodeau did not say those words.
     
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