Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

Yeah I disagree

I think money is almost always the first priority. That's why it's so rare when a guy leaves money on the table (remember everyone making a huge deal of David West this summer?). That being said, Durant stands to make more money in LA than not, just sayin'. I do agree that a 1+1 is something he'll consider, but he may also opt to just take the guaranteed money this summer as well considering his recen injury issues.

As for Derozan: you're missing the essential point @RandleROFY made which is Derozan is having a career year in advanced statistics. No he's not shooting well outside, but his PER is at a career high (over 20), his TS% is nearly 55%, his 3Par and FTr are up, his AST%, and his OWS are both up and that's still with an enormous usage rate. I don't think he'll ever be a shooter, but if he came here he'd come with a lower usage rate and he'd come to build off this newfound efficiency. Besides, maybe with a lower usage rate and more help, he'll be able to develop more from outside.

Fit is important. Talent is vastly, vastly more important. In this draft, I'm not going to pass on Ben Simmons just because he can't hit a jump shot.

 

He's having a career year during his contract year though. I personally don't want him, and I'd expect him to regress next year.

We do need talent, but like pop pop said, I don't want to be that desperate team that grossly overpays for the likes of Joe Johnson / Rashard Lewis while never winning anything.

 

Hate to break it to you, but grossly overpaying will happen this summer whether it's us or not. Many experts expect guys like Ezeli and Ryan Anderson to get either the max or close to it.

If we don't grossly overpay for some talent, we're not getting any.

I'm through being picky and saying "oh we don't want ______ because despite being an All-Star he doesn't fit next to Julius Randle." I know there's a need to be discriminating, but eff that. I'm sick of 20 win seasons and Derozan can help us get away from that. He's not my first choice, but if we signed him I'd be ecstatic.

 

At this moment I agree, but a few key steps and we could right back in the mix. Fire Scott, let the kids start and keep making noise. For all our complaining the kids are doing really, really well relative to their peers (and in some cases relative to everyone). We just need a little momentum at the end of the season.

Then we've got 2 max contracts to hand out so there's some more at play here than just "we stink". It just feels like "we stink" is all we have because it's where we live right now.

 

^^ Agreed Punk. Barnes is the guy who I think GS will find expendable in their bunch. The fact that he was missing for two weeks of their winning streak really brought that home. They have a lot of mouths to feed to stay on top right now and guys like Ezeli are indispensable because Bogut is injury prone and isn't the most mobile guy.

If we could get Barnes and Whiteside I'd be ecstatic. But I like your lists all around. If GS somehow pays for Barnes then I can certainly live with Batum or Derozan. Likewise Al Horford would be also be amazing.

 

Get the #3 pick and trade it, Brandon Bass and Swaggy in a sign and trade for Ryan Anderson. Sign Horford (or even D12) outright. Then come to Durant with

Horford/Black
Randle/Anderson/Nance Jr.
______/Nance Jr./A. Brown
Clarkson/Williams
Russell/Williams

That's actually a title contender with the right coach. Solid starting five of experience and youth. An energetic bench that provides a completely different look than the starters.

 

Isn't JC's qualifying offer the same as Black's at 1.18 million?

 

The Derozan marriage just makes too much sense right now. He'll be only 26 years old when we sign him to the max. He'll be coming home, he's be taking Kobe's roster spot and filling the need for a wing scoring option. No he's not a great shooter, but he'd make that team VERY dynamic defensively and on the break.

We'll have 28.25 million or so in contracts/holds leaving 61.76 million to spend. Derozan's max will start at 24 million or so according to @trodgers .

That'd leave us with roughly 38.31 million dollars and a roster of:

Russell/_____
Clarkson/Williams
Derozan/Young/A. Brown
Randle/Nance Jr.
_____/Black

With that left over cash I go after Hibbert, Noah, and Vasquez. I go 4/45 (starting at 10) for Hibbert. I go 4/45 for Vasquez (also starting at 10). Everything left I throw at Noah (about 8 million).

Russell/Vasquez
Clarkson/Williams
Derozan/Young/A. Brown
Randle/Nance Jr.
Hibbert/Noah/Black

Deep, effective, hard workers. I'd love watching that team.

 

I figured it was some sort of incentive based thing. Well there goes another little chunk of cash to spend. I really hope Jordan helps us out and lets us improve the roster before signing a QO. Same with Tarik, but I could see him signing one asap to get out of here after the way Byron has treated him.

 

I don't think we go after both, not with JC already on the roster with Swaggy AND Lou. We have too many guys at the wing positions to overpay for two more wing players. By this time next season, I'm not convinced that DeRozen will even be better than Clarkson. By getting both, someone who should be starting will be moved to the bench, and the guys that are already on the bench (Lou and Swaggy) will be pushed even further back. Say we do Horford and Batum. The Derozen money could be used to grab a backup "true" pg and a backup center, both of which we desperately need. We can't have Bass or Sacre logging heavy minutes behind Horford.

 

I strongly doubt Horford goes anywhere and I have absolutely no doubt that he will not sign here. He's older, looking for a competitive team right now.