Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

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  1. Kenzo

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    If anyone mentiones Luol Deng one more time, i'll riot ;).
     
    Kenzo, Dec 21, 2015
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  2. Lakers2015

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    What's wrong with Deng? As a backup I'd take him in a heartbeat.
     
    Lakers2015, Dec 21, 2015
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  3. alam1108

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    So how about that Duol Leng?
     
    alam1108, Dec 21, 2015
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    The max breaks down as:
    0-6 = 25% of the cap
    7-9 = 30% of the cap
    10+ = 35% of the cap

    30% of the cap at 90 million would start at 27 million wouldn't it?
     
    therealdeal, Dec 21, 2015
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  5. therealdeal

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    In a reserve role? I'd love Luol Deng in a reserve role. Not too many minutes, good veteran leader, smart player. I like him.
     
    therealdeal, Dec 21, 2015
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  6. trodgers

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    It's not 30% of the cap; they use a different number to determine max contracts.

    From Coon's cap FAQ:
    2 They use a different cap calculation to determine the maximum salaries, which is based on 42.14% of projected BRI rather than 44.74%. In 2005 the sides negotiated a different formula for setting the salary cap but not maximum salaries, so the two became decoupled, and this continued in the 2011 agreement. For this reason the maximum salaries are not actually 25%, 30% or 35% of the cap, and instead are a slightly lower amount. For example, even though the salary cap for 2011-12 is $58.044 million and 25% of this amount is $14.511 million, the 0-6 year maximum salary is actually $12,922,194. In addition, for 2012-13 a 5.8% increase in maximum salaries was agreed to, even though the salary cap stayed the same as 2011-12.

    Examples:
    http://www.basketballinsiders.com/projecting-2015-2016-max-salary-tiers/
    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/07/08/nba-max-contract-values-for-2015-16/
     
    trodgers, Dec 21, 2015
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    Interesting. Thanks for posting.

    So I'm going to have to assume there's a percentage we're not privy to that gets them to 25.3 million? If they're off by 2.6% or so then wouldn't we come out even lower to 24.7 or so million?
     
    therealdeal, Dec 21, 2015
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  8. Juronimo

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    No Deng No Deal.
     
    Juronimo, Dec 21, 2015
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    May this live in infamy
     
    Battle Tested20, Dec 21, 2015
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  10. trodgers

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    The 25.3 is allegedly accurate for a 90m cap.
     
    trodgers, Dec 21, 2015
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  11. therealdeal

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    I understand that, but that would make it 28% of the cap instead of 30%. The 2% number isn't constant across all the max projections, so there's some sort of scale or percentage that I don't know.
     
    therealdeal, Dec 21, 2015
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  12. LaVarBallsDad

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    LaVarBallsDad, Dec 21, 2015
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    No idea why we let Ed Davis go. He would've been a perfect fit with this group.
     
    Lakers2015, Dec 21, 2015
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    But the Blazer's upheaval was pretty significant this offseason? Wes Matthews, Lamarcus Aldridge, and Nic Batum all went byebye. I mean I guess his point could apply anyways, but still.
     
    lakersyunowin, Dec 21, 2015
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    He's one of the few players I wanted to keep around from the past couple seasons. Would have done well with Russell and PnRs
     
    alam1108, Dec 21, 2015
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  16. LaVarBallsDad

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    Another guy I would target as a UFA: Timothy Mosgov
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Dec 21, 2015
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    You're using the wrong "cap" calculation. 42.14% is 94% of 44.74%. 94% of 90m is the cap, for max salary purposes. That's 84.9m. 30% of that is the 25.4m.
     
    trodgers, Dec 21, 2015
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  18. therealdeal

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    there you go. Couldn't figure out where I was making the mistake. Okay I'll start using these figures in my fancast for the next season. :Crazyartest:
     
    therealdeal, Dec 21, 2015
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    Kind of ironic he says that after the Blazers just lost several key free agents....
     
    sirronstuff, Dec 21, 2015
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    Isn't it absurd how complex this game has become?
     
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