Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

Unfortunately Trump was making some solid points and sounded almost humble there for a while... I fear that he'll make the actual cut and the nation will feel like they MUST pick between Trump and Hillary Clinton... Oh god.

Rubio is my guy if this thing went down tomorrow. Cruz annoyed me. Trump is Trump. Fiornia would I think greatly help the economy, but she won't win. Why was her closing speech "we must beat Hillary Clinton!"? That's not going to resonate. Give me strong leadership instead of vendetta. Christie came off as a crazy gunslinger. I haven't heard him speak much is he always like that?

 

^^^ Christie talks in everyday language. A tamer Trump. What annoys me is he ALWAYS brings up that he was a Federal Prosecutor after 9-11. He says it at least twice every single debate.

I wish someone was the positive attributes of Cruz and Rubio meshed together. That would be my vote.

 

Yeah Crubio would be great.

And yeah I think Christie mentioned 9/11 four times last night? At least three that i can remember. Gee I wonder if he's trying to use that to garner sympathy or something.

I also like Ben Carson, but dear Lord he is the slowest speaker. He's slower than Roy Hibbert's roll down the lane.

 

^^ Cruz and Rubio got into a deep debate and both took criticism for it last night. I actually liked it and found myself agreeing with parts of both of their arguments, even though they were polar opposite.

I see Trump and Cruz joining forces. I don't understand it. Not one bit. Cruz is a Constitutional Conservative. Trump is a loud mouth who doesn't know the basics of government or foreign policy.

 

Sanders campaign suspended for stealing Clinton's voter info. A socialist stealing other people's stuff? Imagine that.

Throw in Clinton's FBI investigation (at least 2 Top Secret emails confirmed on unsecure home server).

These 2 are gonna get Trump elected. Sigh.

 

Naw, this is supremely fishy on Clinton's (read DNC) part.

They're asking Sanders campaign to prove they have destroyed information about the Clinton Campaign, but they have no proof that the Sanders campaign has any info from the Clinton campaign, so how can Sanders prove he destroyed it? In this day and age, how could anyone prove that you've destroyed all copies of any digital information?

How did they find out that Sanders campaign could see Clinton campaign info? When Sanders campaign reported the hole in the network firewall to the DNC, and there's nothing proving Clinton's campaign couldn't see all of Sanders info as well.

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How the DNC Just Sabotaged Bernie Sanders’ Campaign in One Devastating Move
Amanda Girard | December 18, 2015
This move will cripple Sanders’ campaign unless it’s reversed.

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As chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), Debbie Wasserman Schultz has spent the last 8 months using her position to put a lid on Bernie Sanders’ momentum. And after what was arguably the biggest week of the Sanders campaign, she may have finally succeeded.

Late Thursday night, the DNC took the drastic step of cutting off the Sanders campaign’s access to its comprehensive 50-state voter file that lists voter patterns and preferences, effectively shutting down the campaign’s voter outreach operations just over a month before the critical Iowa caucus and a little over 50 days before the New Hampshire primary.

The punishment came about as the result of a 30-minute glitch in NGP VAN — the vendor that handles the DNC’s voter data — in which internal models for each Democratic presidential campaign were briefly available to other competing campaigns while NGP VAN was applying a patch to the software. Michael Briggs, a communications aide for the Sanders campaign, said this isn’t the first time they’ve reported security bugs in the DNC’s voter file.

“On more than one occasion, the vendor has dropped the firewall between the data of different Democratic campaigns. Our campaign months ago alerted the DNC to the fact that campaign data was being made available to other campaigns,” Briggs told Buzzfeed News. “At that time our campaign did not run to the media, relying instead on assurances from the vendor.”

The DNC has vowed to not grant the Sanders campaign access to the voter file until it has proved that it destroyed all of the Clinton campaign data it inadvertently accessed as a result of the glitch. However, as Reddit user bastion_of_press pointed out, the Sanders campaign cannot prove it destroyed something it doesn’t have, meaning the ban on accessing critical voter information could be indefinite.

“The DNC hires a group to manage their database and firewall between the campaigns. They screw up and some low level Sanders staffer sees and reports it. Nothing is saved or printed out and now the DNC is withholding crucial access to voter data until the Sanders campaign can prove it doesn’t have the data from the Clinton campaign and won’t release access to voter data unless somehow the Sanders campaign can prove a negative – that they have destroyed data they don’t have. Which is impossible.”

The news couldn’t have come at a worse time for the Sanders campaign, which recently announced its latest milestone of 2 million campaign contributions, with over $2 million raised in just 72 hours. Sanders also received major endorsements from the 700,000-member Communications Workers of America union and secured 88.9 percent of 270,000 votes cast in Democracy for America’s official endorsement poll.

This is far from the first time Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been accused of stifling Sanders’ voice in the Democratic primary contest. Schultz took considerable heat from Democrats for scheduling just six debates compared to the Republicans’ 12 debates. And those six debates are scheduled at times when the fewest amount of voters are likely to watch. In fact, the next Democratic debate, which is taking place on Saturday night at 8 PM Eastern, is happening at the same time as a primetime NFL football game.
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http://usuncut.com/politics/dnc-sabotages-bernie/

 

Wow. Our political system is so broken.

 

She's the embodiment of everything bad about the Dems. IMO, she's a clueless..... I'll leave it at that. I don't wanna cuss up a storm.

Based on the history of all parties involved, I'm inclined to believe Bernie. He's a politician and I don't trust many of them, but if it's between him, Hillary / Debbie, I'm going with Bernie. I hope he comes out of this unscathed and shines a light on the DNC. However, if his team is guilty of foul play, I'd like him to take whatever blame and punishment comes his way.

 

Great point. And I agree on Cruz. It'll get him in the end. Like I said, Ds and Rs hate him. I would think Bernie would know how to swim with sharks considering his years in Congress.

 

Which gives me heart about Sanders. If he doesn't have those connections, with as long as he's been in office then he probably hasn't been doing the "favors" for them, that are borderline illegal and 100% immoral like giving contracts to their friend's companies, etc.

 

That was quick:

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DNC to Restore Voter Database to Sanders Campaign
Zach Cartwright | December 19, 2015
The DNC will restore access following a swift and unprecedented online mobilization of progressives.

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Bernie Sanders’ grassroots base has just won a major victory in the battle with the Democratic National Committee. The DNC has bowed to demands to give access to the national voter database back to the Sanders campaign.

According to a tweet from New York Times reporter Nick Corasaniti, the DNC will restore the Sanders campaign’s database access on Saturday morning:


The progressive outrage over the DNC’s decision dominated national news coverage from Friday morning to late evening. A MoveOn petition launched early Friday morning gained over 250,000 signatures in less than 24 hours. A similar petition by Robert Reich — former Secretary of Labor for the Bill Clinton White House — also went viral. Bernie Sanders’ campaign also launched a petition demanding the DNC restore access to the voter file, in addition to taking the DNC to court over the matter.

The snafu began when Josh Uretsky, former national data director for the Sanders campaign, noticed a security breach in NGP VAN, the software responsible for managing the infrastructure of Democratic campaigns. While NGP VAN was installing a patch, internal voter models from other Democratic campaigns were briefly available to one another for a 40-minute window.

Uretsky made copies of the data models and shared them with 3 separate usernames on the Sanders campaign’s NGP VAN account. Uretsky, who was later fired by the Sanders campaign, told MSNBC he knew what he was doing could be tracked in an audit and maintained that he did so with the intent of showing what data belonging to the Sanders campaign could potentially be accessed by the Clinton campaign when reporting the bug to NGP VAN and the DNC.

The DNC’s controversial move will likely be a topic at tomorrow night’s Democratic presidential debate in Manchester, New Hampshire. Sanders will be debating former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley Saturday evening at 8 PM Eastern.
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http://usuncut.com/politics/breaking-dnc-to-restore-voter-database-to-sanders-campaign/

 

Truer words have never been spoken.




Also:

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New Information Shows DNC Violated Its Own Rules When It Shut Down Sanders Campaign Data Access
AUTHOR: CHRISTIAN DRAKE DECEMBER 19, 2015 9:16 AM
The DNC appears to have been in such a rush to shut down Bernie Sanders’ campaign, that they violated a few of their own laws according to a lawsuit filed by the campaign against the DNC.

The shutdown came about because of a DNC software security error that allowed one campaign to view another campaign’s proprietary voter data. This is an error that had been reported to the DNC for months by the Sanders campaign but continued to occur. A few Sanders staffers allegedly accessed private data from the Hillary Clinton campaign during a period where the error had been occurring again, and when this was found the DNC immediately locked the Sanders campaign out of their data.

While no one is blameless in this mess, the DNC has handled things extremely poorly, and may have even broke their own guidelines. Here is where the DNC’s problems start. Notes in the lawsuit indicate the DNC violated some of its own rules in its haste to “fix” the problem of the data breach.

It stated that under a contract between the DNC and the Sanders campaign, pertaining to the data system’s use, formal notice in writing is required if either side believes the other has violated the rules on privacy. Additionally, each side is supposed to be allowed 10 days to address any concerns.

“The DNC may not suspend the Campaign’s access to critical Voter Data out of haste or desperation to clean up after the DNC’s own mistakes,” the suit says.

Source: Washington Post

An agreement was reached the same day, very soon after the Sanders campaign announced they filed the lawsuit, for Bernie’s team to regain access to the data on the following morning. As of now, it seems like the massive publicity of this mess has resolved the issue of whether or not Bernie will be able to continue his presidential campaign.

What’s important to know is this: Whether you are for Bernie or Hillary, the fault ultimately is with the DNC and their chosen vendor for not resolving the issue when it was first reported. To make matters worse, the DNC rushed to apply a draconian punishment for the resulting breach. It’s also important to know that the DNC cut off Sanders from his own data, not just from a generic DNC list, essentially taking his campaign’s private data hostage.

The DNC wanted to have people held accountable for misconduct, and while that is fair, will they be applying the same level of punishment to their leadership for the mishandling of this whole fiasco?
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/1...en-it-shut-down-sanders-campaign-data-access/

 

LOL, Ted Cruz trying to kiss his daughter

 

I wouldn't mind kissing Trumps daughter.