Julius Randle Discussion: Beast, Ox, Monster, Lotus Flower

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  1. 432J

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    it's best to just keep him out for the year and ensure a full recovery instead of rushing him back

    this season is a lost cause anyways so he won't be needed whatsoever
     
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    ^ even if we tried to rush his comeback... he's still out for the season.
     
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    I hope he has a full recovery. Very talented player who WILL have a great career.

    But he is young after all. I think a bunch of things contributed to the injury. His foot injury never healed right. General managers thought that might have been an issue, and it has IMO. I think his diet might have been another issue. Reading on Julius Randle this summer, I found his favorite place to eat was Roscoe's chicken and waffles. He came into camp, not in the best shape. That's why coach pushed him so hard, and why he was gasped to easy. Plus he is still growing. Add all that together and it would cause an injury. Good news is, he wont miss a beat.
     
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    I hope this injury is a one time thing for him and like Big Game James, has a successful career afterwards.
     
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    Seeing that happen last night made me sick to my stomach. Poor Julius.

    But as a Laker fan when will it stop? Sure we've won 5 rings in the last 15 years but these last 3 seasons especially, have been cruel.
     
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    Despite the very valid concern over Randle missing a year of development, I'm wondering if he might be better off in the long run by missing this season. We look like complete garbage and though we'll get better at some point this season, Randle might have had a much more difficult time trying to develop his game if he had to carry too much of the load with the guys we have out there now. Next year he's bound to be playing with some real talent that will be here long-term. Probably a better situation in which to enjoy the game, gain confidence, and develop. I am going to look at it that way in any case just because it makes me feel better.
     
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    ^ all valid points... but nba experience is what he needs the most right now. In game experience. Getting used to the pace, phisicality, learning from Booz and Kobe. I feel like crying... :(
     
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    It sucks. There is no way this team deserves this much devastation in 3 years. But this is the perfect time for julius to watch games. Study them. Watch the tendencies of players, develop a more consistent and fluid jumpshot when he's able to do so.
     
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    Sure it will. Bones heal stronger after breaks, but if he's prone to bone breakage, then it could just mean that another one of his bones will break. I don't know if that's true or not, just putting it out there to further depress everybody.

    No really I'm not that worried about his health moving forward. There's some small concerns, but nothing a year off can't fix. I'm a little worried about his mentality, but he's around strong minds he should be alright.

    Worthy and Mychal Thompson both had the same injury at roughly the same point in their NBA careers and came back just fine. Worthy had a Hall Of Fame career. Randle should be okay.
     
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    Now, how about that right foot of his? They should really consider having him correct that as well if he's going to be out the year anyway.
     
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    In the time he takes off the rest of his body including his foot should be able to heal 110% or else there would be whispers of having a foot procedure as well. Obviously they think his foot is completely fine, especially after now will not be using it for months, so that can officially be put to rest.

    He will also now be able to get even stronger,leaner in his upper body. If he truly wants to be great, he still will be able to learn a lot from a mental standpoint even if it will be a year setback physically as he continues to mature.
     
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    But can we really put it to rest?

    I mean, it could have been the contributing factor to his broken leg. Physically it may be healed, but it may not be structurally sound. The fact that he has time now to get it reexamined, is even better. Obviously, the training staff might have overlooked this possibility and he should get a second opinion on it. After 3 years of injuries, I'm starting to second guess our training staff as well, especially reading what the Phoenix training staff does for their players.
     
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    I have the same screw in the same bone and I came back from the injury after several months off only to tear my plantar facia in the same foot 4 games into my "comeback" (I place it in parentheses because using the word "comeback" for a weekend warrior seems a bit overdramatic). My doctor and completely separately my physical therapist both told me that even if everything seems perfect and there is no pain, your body may unknonwingly work against you if you have a foreign object in it.
     
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    Did you have other options other than the screw for you? Was there an end game to ever removing the screw?
     
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    Savory- they're 100% right, but man the Lakers sent Julius to FIVE doctors didn't they? They made him do all the rounds and nobody said he should have the screw removed. They had private doctors, specialists, therapists, etc.

    We're weekend warriors, but he's a pro. They sent him all over the country getting opinions. I just have to believe they did their due diligence on the screwed foot (pun intended). Right now I'm pretty much with you guys: take the screw out now while he's sidelined for a year anyway. Why not? Unless there's info we just don't have, I don't see the down side to it.
     
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    There were no other options but putting the screw in. It had been 6 weeks and it showed zero signs of healing. The tricky thing about that injury is there is very, very little blood flow to the area. It often needs to be surgically repaired. Removing the screw is often not an option. For me, my bone is STILL not completely healed, but is in no danger of breaking because the screw runs through the bone acting almost like rebar. The rebreak rate of a Jones fracture is very high if there is no screw. Durant will likely leave his in for the rest of his career, especially considering it's a stress fracture which is a result of overuse or even a bad gait. That's the sinister one because if it's gait related, it will reoccur over and over again and you HAVE to leave the screw in.

    I honestly don't think Randle should remove the screw unless the screw was placed in poorly. In fact, I am curious as to what it was that got people worried about it in the first place. For someone like him, taking out the screw would be a horrible decision unless the screw it badly placed.
     
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    This may have been answered but couldn't find it. With Randle out for the rest of the season, does he come back next season as a rookie or a 2nd year player considering he only played about 10 minutes or so that first game? I'm wondering since I really wanted to see him contend for ROY.
     
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    Would have been real nice to have Randle in there tonight instead of Sacre because lets face it Sacre was one of the major reasons we lost tonight against the Clips
     
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    Actually we were right there. The difference was free throws.
     
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