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Asked myself this question as well, so I decided to look it up.

Mike Brown - Last year paid was 2014-2015 season 3.5 million

Ex-NBA Coach Mike Brown Is Making A Ton Of Money For Getting Fired Twice In 2 Seasons

Tony Manfred

Cleveland Cavaliers have fired coach Mike Brown after just one season, the team announced on Monday.

The Cavs went 33-49, finishing 10th in the Eastern Conference in a year when they expected to make the playoffs for the first time in the post-LeBron era.

This is the second time Brown has been fired in the last two seasons. The Los Angeles Lakers fired him five games into the 2012-13 season.

Brown might be out of a job, but he's still making a ton of money.

He was just one year into a five-year, $20-million contract with the Cavs that he signed in April 2013. The first four years were guaranteed and the fifth year was partially guaranteed, ESPN's Brian Windhorst reported at the time.

He's also still getting paid by the Lakers. LA still owed Brown $7 million over the 2013-14 and 2014-15 seasons coming into the year, an unspecified portion of which was offset by the Cavaliers hiring, ESPN-LA's Dave McMenamin reports.

Depending on how much Cleveland owes him for that fifth year and how much of that $7 million the Lakers still have to pay out, it's safe to assume that Brown is looking at somewhere north of $15 million in future salary from teams that fired him.

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Mike Dan Tony -- Paid an undisclosed portion of $4 million salary in 2014-2015

Los Angeles Lakers[edit]
On November 12, 2012, the Lakers signed D'Antoni to a three-year contract worth $12 million.[12][13] He replaced Mike Brown, who was fired as head coach after a 1–4 start to the 2012–13 season. The Lakers first contacted former Lakers coach Phil Jackson about the opening, but D'Antoni was hired in a unanimous decision by the Lakers front office.[3][14][15][16] The Lakers felt that D'Antoni's fast-paced style of play made him a "great fit" for the team, more suitable than Jackson's structured triangle offense.[14][15][17][18] Lakers owner Jerry Buss' preference has always been for the Lakers to have a wide-open offense.[14] D'Antoni was reunited with Nash, who was traded to the Lakers before the season. Lakers star Kobe Bryant was also familiar with D'Antoni; Bryant as a child knew him when D'Antoni was a star in Italy and Bryant's father was also playing there. Bryant grew close with D'Antoni during their time with Team USA.[3][16]

D'Antoni's coaching debut with the Lakers was delayed as he recovered from knee replacement surgery. He had surgery weeks before on October 31, as he originally expected he was taking a year off from coaching and would have months to recover.[19] Bernie Bickerstaff, who was the Lakers' interim coach after Brown was fired, continued in that role after D'Antoni was hired.[20] He was 4–1 as the interim coach, winning his last two as D'Antoni started leading team practices.[21][22] D'Antoni named a new assistant to the Lakers' staff, his older brother Dan, who also helped with the practices. In his first press conference, D'Antoni predicted that the Lakers, then 3–5 and ranked 20th in scoring with 96.5 points per game, should instead be scoring "110–115 points a game".[21] He wanted to revive Showtime.[23] He reiterated general manager Mitch Kupchak's belief that the Lakers were built to win an NBA championship that season. D'Antoni was glad to be back with Nash, noting his unsuccessful stint with the Knicks without him.[21] On November 20, he coached his first game—nine days after he was hired—in a 95–90 win against the Brooklyn Nets.[24] In his first game back in New York in December, the Lakers lost 116–107 and dropped to 4–9 overall under D'Antoni.[25] D'Antoni coached his first 17 games without Nash, who was recovering from a broken leg.[26] The Lakers won three out of four after Nash returned in late December, but proceeded to lose their next six.[27][28]

Calling it a permanent move, D'Antoni benched forward Pau Gasol in mid-January and started Earl Clark to form the faster and smaller lineup that the coach preferred.[29][30][31] The team was already ranked No. 2 in pace.[30] Halfway through the season, the Lakers were in 12th place in the Western Conference with a 17–24 record. Under D'Antoni, the Lakers were 12-19 while scoring an average of 103.3 points a game but surrendering 103.4.[32] Offensively, they reached the 110-point threshold just eight times in the 31 games, going 5–3.[33] However, D'Antoni stressed that the team's focus needed to be on its defense, not offense.[34] D'Antoni likened the Lakers to an All-Star team in which "everybody gets the ball and goes one on one and then they play no defense."[35] He added that they "haven't learned that there's a pecking order" where stars need to know their roles.[35]

Nash struggled with center Dwight Howard to run the pick and roll, a play that D'Antoni expected would be a staple for the Lakers.[36] D'Antoni eventually dropped his offense and played without any system.[37][38] "We play basketball. The system is move the ball, play hard defense, space the floor and who's open shoots. It's not a difficult thing," said D'Antoni.[38] The coach moved Nash off the ball and made him more of a spot-up shooter, while Bryant became the primary facilitator on offense.[37][38][39] The defense was also more energized.[40]

D'Antoni was named Western Conference Coach of the Month after the Lakers went 7–1 in April. They finished the season 28–12 after dropping to 17–25 in January the day of their team meeting in Memphis.[41] They qualified for the playoffs on the final day of the season, securing the seventh seed in the West.[42] The Lakers expected starting five of Bryant, Nash, Howard, Gasol and Metta World Peace started together just seven times all season and without registering a win.[43] "The Lakers didn't help things by making the coaching change and putting [D'Antoni] in that situation, which he was glad to take. But I think it was a little bit tougher than he thought it would be," Kupchak said.[41] The Lakers faced San Antonio in the playoffs, but they lost in the opening round for the first time since 2007, and suffered their first opening-round sweep since 1967.[44]

In D'Antoni's first full season with the team in 2013–14, the Lakers went 27–55 for the second-worst winning percentage (.329) in team history. It was the worst 82-game record in team history and their fewest wins since the franchise moved from Minnesota.[45]Howard left before the season as a free agent, accepting less money to join the Houston Rockets.[46] Bryant played in just six games during the season, but he and Gasol were critical of D'Antoni's small-ball system.[47] Nash also missed most of the season with injuries.[46] On April 30, 2014, D'Antoni resigned as coach of the Lakers after the team declined to pick up their option for him to coach in 2015–16. He was paid an undisclosed amount of the $4 million owed him for the upcoming 2014–15 season. "Given the circumstances, I don't know that anybody could have done a better job than Mike did the past two seasons," said Kupchak.[47]
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Byron Scott

Scott gets 4 years, $17M from Lakers
7/27/2014 - NBA LOS ANGELES LAKERS

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The Los Angeles Lakers have agreed to terms with Byron Scott to be their next head coach.

Sources told ESPN that Scott agreed to a four-year, $17 million contract with the Lakers, who hold a team option on the final year of the deal.

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Byron Scott is the right man to start the Lakers' journey from shambles back to Showtime, Dave McMenamin writes.

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Scott confirmed the agreement to KCBS-TV on Saturday night.

"It feels fantastic," he told KCBS-TV. "This is a dream come true. I always wanted to coach the Lakers, especially when I got to coaching. It's so unreal. I have to thank [general manager] Mitch [Kupchak], Jeanie and Jim Buss to give me this opportunity."

Scott has been the front-runner for the job throughout most of the nearly three-month coaching search, which began when Mike D'Antoni resigned on April 30. His status as a three-time champion with the team during the Showtime era, his close relationship with Kobe Bryant and his familiarity with the current roster after having worked as an analyst all of last season for the Lakers television station, Time Warner Cable SportsNet, gave him the early edge.

Scott then impressed Lakers management during three interviews, the last of which took place after the team's roster had been filled out and Scott was given a chance to articulate his vision for the current personnel.

The Lakers were impressed by Scott's reputation as a disciplinarian, believing that temperament to be the right fit for a young team and able to take some pressure off Bryant in that area.

The Lakers interviewed a handful of candidates for the job, but after making quick hires in their past two coaching searches, the franchise decided to prioritize the draft and free agency over hiring a coach.

The Lakers had contacted five coaches besides Scott about the position -- Mike Dunleavy, Kurt Rambis, Alvin Gentry, Lionel Hollins and ESPN NBA analyst George Karl.

Three of those candidates soon accepted new jobs after talking to the Lakers. Hollins was hired as coach of the Brooklyn Nets after Jason Kidd bolted for theMilwaukee Bucks, while Gentry (Golden State Warriors) and Rambis (New York Knicks) accepted associate head-coaching positions.

Bryant, who played with Scott in 1996 during his rookie season, offered a key endorsement during his basketball camp in Santa Barbara, California, three weeks ago.

"He was my rookie mentor when I first came into the league," Bryant said. "So I had to do things like get his doughnuts and run errands for him and things like that. We've had a tremendously close relationship throughout the years. So, obviously, I know him extremely well. He knows me extremely well. I've always been a fan of his."

ESPNLosAngeles.com's Dave McMenamin and ESPN the Magazine's Chris Broussard contributed to this report.
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Essentially, we don't owe any other coaches money this season at all.

Last year we paid part of Antoni's 4 million, and also 3.5 million for Potato Head, and on top of that BScott 4.25 million. Estimating Antoni at 3 million just because the Lakers are generous, that's about 10.75 million for the worst record in franchise history in 2014-15.

This year is 4.25 million, as well as two more years after this. It will be interesting to see if the Lakers are willing to consider eating more coaching salary beyond Byron's right now for who is available.

Considering Byron's resume and lifetime coaching winning % of about 40%, it's interesting that the Lakers paid him MORE than either Antoni or Brown.
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Maybe we could, I dunno, stop giving out contracts longer than 2 years for a while? I don't think a 2 year contract next time is a bad thing to shoot for, especially if we go for a more unproven or younger coach.

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No coach will sign that though. Especially since we keep firing ours.

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Yeah, anyone negotiating with us has the power.

Awesome sleuthing, Sirron.

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Suggestion: maybe you could also use this thread to mention any potential candidates for the future head coaching vacancy.

Byron isn't going to last...

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Suggestion: maybe you could also use this thread to mention any potential candidates for the future head coaching vacancy.

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Luke Walton
Ettore Messina
Scotty Brooks
Kevin Ollie

Those are a few names I see thrown around.

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I would also add

Kenny Atkinson
Tyronn Lue

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The NBA's top head-coaching prospects
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/72749/the-nbas-top-head-coaching-prospects

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Kevin Ollie is my choice

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Whoever they decided to hire should be surrounded with good assistants.

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Probably should start a new thread dedicated to coaches or change the title on this one.

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That said, I do like Ollie.

But I probably lean more toward Lue or Walton given that they are former Lakers who understand the franchise.

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Great research sirron. That's reassuring to a degree. If management isn't sufficiently motivated to eat another coaching contract or is tired of paying coaches to stay away from the team, I know 80% (at least) of Laker fans would kick in a few bucks to a crowd funding campaign if it got this fool outta here.

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No coach will sign that though. Especially since we keep firing ours.
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I dunno, I think a lesser known or even college coach trying to get into the league might take that. If not 2 years, then 3 years for a much more reasonable per year rate than what Byron and 'Antoni command. What did Stevens get with Boston, or Blatt with Cleveland, or Snyder with Utah?

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The NBA's top head-coaching prospects
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/72749/the-nbas-top-head-coaching-prospects
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I like what I read about Kenny Atkinson the most.

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What did Stevens get with Boston, or Blatt with Cleveland, or Snyder with Utah
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http://www.otherleague.com/contracts/nba-head-coach-contracts-salaries/

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There's all kinds of reasonable salaries there, multiple guys at 2 mil.

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There's all kinds of reasonable salaries there, multiple guys at 2 mil.
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But not a lot of them on short contracts. Most guys like 4-5 years for security. I'm down with a reasonable salary though.

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Ok, 4 years at 2 mil, that's less than half of what we are paying our current clown of a coach. Lol, my point is, stop giving coaches long contracts worth a bunch of money. If you're going to take a chance on a lesser known guy, college coach, international coach, don't pay him so you'll regret having to fire him. Unless Popovich decides to come here, stop throwing money at these mediocre or AWFUL coaches.

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Man, poor Frank Vogel being paid in Frank Vogel, I don't know how that even works.

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