Is It Time To Move On From Gary Vitti?

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by therealdeal, Oct 21, 2014.

  1. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The doctors we use would be fair game to be reevaluated as well.

    Clearly there's something wrong here. It can't just be bad luck. The Lakers need to figure this out and quickly.
     
  2. johnnyboy

    johnnyboy - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,317
    Likes Received:
    1,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Im Satoshi Nakamoto
    Location:
    Orange County
    Offline
    Yeah, the duration of peoples injuries over the last few years has been pretty bad.
     
  3. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,658
    Likes Received:
    76,996
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    Gary Vitti strikes again!
     
  4. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,470
    Likes Received:
    60,665
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Nah, come on.... though knowing you you're probably jerking with us. [​IMG] Freak injury of course.
     
  5. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I can't blame Vitti, but again there's something weird going on here, right? I'm already a superstitious guy but this is THREE YEARS IN A ROW. Young guys, old guys, new guys, veterans, blue guys, up guys, down guys it doesn't matter. Everybody on our team is a time bomb.

    I don't want to blame Vitti for this last injury. It was a freak occurrence right? Just unlucky...

    Well there's a saying: you make your own luck. Something needs to turn around here. Something needs to happen. The Lakers need to address their health and fitness department and make some changes. You don't have to fire people, but bring more people in. Flood the office with MDs, trainers, and therapists. Hire a witch doctor and a shaman and a priest. I don't care. Do something.
     
  6. lakerfan2

    lakerfan2 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    5,220
    Likes Received:
    10,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Offline
    Can we make a sacrifice or something? I vote the Clippers.
     
    thkthebest likes this.
  7. revgen

    revgen - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,833
    Likes Received:
    4,203
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/julius...cruel-blow-to-crumbling-lakers-154552606.html

    Great article by Woj. It calls into question our medical staff and the Lakers FO. Did our medical staff goof on this one? Or did our FO ignore their warnings?
     
    LaVarBallsDad and thkthebest like this.
  8. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He went to like four doctors and they all said it would be fine. I don't buy the rotation idea. I buy Doc's idea, but I don't know if I buy the rotation idea.
     
  9. BigDan24

    BigDan24 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    154
    Likes Received:
    431
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Bonn, Germany
    Offline
    The question is, will he have surgery on the foot now since he will miss the time anyhow? If it should be fixed for better long-term stability then why not do it now?
     
  10. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,274
    Likes Received:
    18,623
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Good point
     
  11. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    Don't want to blame the medical staff and trainers but come on it's been 2-3 years where we have half the team injured. Something needs to be done whether it's changing up some things or make a sacrifice to the basketball gods.
     
    lakerjones likes this.
  12. ILikeLakers

    ILikeLakers - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2014
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Offline
    I hate this is being talked about. I would say with the number of championships and finals appearances we've had, and knowing health plays a big role, that he has done a fine job.
     
  13. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    I like the signature :clap:
     
  14. ILikeLakers

    ILikeLakers - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2014
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Offline
    when did Kobe tell Howard he was soft?
     
  15. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Last night during the game.
     
  16. MusixFinest

    MusixFinest - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Offline
    I feel like ever since Jimbo screwed over PJ, there's been nothing but bad vibes surrounding this team. Dr. Buss dies soon after. The Big Four Redux experiment goes terribly wrong. Kobe injures his Achilles. Dwight leaves. Kobe comes back the next season and hurts his knee. We have the worst season ever in Lakers history. We finish with the sixth-worst record in the league and end up with the 7th pick in the draft, whereas the Cavs have the ninth-worst record and pick 1st. In year 3, we lose our sixth-man for at least the first month of the season and our lottery pick breaks his leg. Who knows what else is coming?

    If you think about it, it was right after PJ "retired" as coach (and the Lakers cleaned house of all PJ loyalists) when the CP3 trade was nixed, too. Could this be Karmic retribution?
     
  17. revgen

    revgen - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,833
    Likes Received:
    4,203
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Karmic retribution?

    Have you ever heard of the "Chick Hearn Curse"?

    That's what folks were calling it before we reached the Finals in 2008. Blaming our woes on Chick's passing. As if our winning ways ended as soon as Chick passed away.

    All teams go through ups and downs. And some fans will inevitably come up with some "curse" to deal with the down cycle.
     
    Barnstable likes this.
  18. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    But have teams have this steep of a down? We've been decimated by injuries and have no sense of direction with what we are doing with the team going forward.
     
  19. revgen

    revgen - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,833
    Likes Received:
    4,203
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yes. The C-bags had it worse than we ever did. Two of their "future stars" died.
     
    Barnstable and lakerjones like this.
  20. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    31,838
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    This is absolutely true. Very sad. As much as I hate them, you couldn't wish that on them but it did happen. Len Bias and Reggie Lewis. Awful stuff. I don't agree with the title of this article but an interesting and brief read on the subject. I still remember when it happened to Reggie Lewis. So sad. Makes our situation look very mild in comparison. Much of what has happened to us was also brought on by bad decision making from our front office. Not the injuries per se, but some of the personnel choices like Nash who clearly had a very limited ceiling because of his history and age.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ewis-duo-boston-C Bags-could-have-owned-1990s

    With Len Bias-Reggie Lewis Duo, Boston C Bags Could Have Owned 1990s
    By Mike B., Featured Columnist Jan 16, 2010
    Boston C Bags this past summer. He picked the same number he has worn for most of his career: 30.

    That number, though, likely would not have been available to him if a man by the name of Len Bias hadn't passed away almost 25 years ago.

    You've heard the story many times. Bias, the former University of Maryland star, died from a cocaine overdose less than 48 hours after being drafted second overall by the C Bags in the 1986 NBA Draft.

    He was expected to insert youth and athleticism to an aging C Bags lineup and help the "Big Three" of Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, and Robert Parish win a few more titles in the 1980s.

    Bias could have prolonged the careers of those Hall-of-Famers and then taken over as "The Man" and carried the C's to additional championships in the 1990s.

    Unfortunately, the C Bags, who had won it all in 1986 over the Los Angeles Lakers, failed to claim another title in the '80s and Bird and McHale were forced into retirement in the early '90s due to injury.

    Most of the '90s were absolutely miserable for the C Bags as they became a perennial lottery team once the Big Three left town and went on to acquire a bunch of average talent.

    But the loss of Bias and the breaking down of Bird and McHale weren't the only reasons for the team's demise. C Bags All-Star guard Reggie Lewis died of cardiac arrest in 1993 at the young age of 27.

    In case you didn't follow the NBA much in the 90s, Lewis was one of the most dangerous scorers in the league back then. He led the C Bags with back-to-back 20 ppg seasons and averaged 28 per game during the '92 playoffs.

    Bias and Lewis could have very well formed a dynamic duo as two extremely gifted scorers who could drop 30 a piece on any given night.

    If those two had lived, maybe Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls wouldn't have won six championships.

    The C Bags vs. Bulls matchup could have turned into an epic rivalry with the two teams fighting and clawing in the Eastern Conference Finals each year.

    Just imagine the matchups—Jordan vs. Bias and Scottie Pippen vs. Lewis. Many people thought that Bias would have been as good or even better than Jordan and we know how good Pippen and Lewis were.

    Who knows if the C Bags would have won stolen any titles from the Bulls, but they just might have beaten Hakeem Olajuwon's Houston Rockets in both '94 and '95 while Jordan was playing baseball.

    But of course, the C Bags might have still been an awful team in the 90s.

    Bias could have turned out to be a bust or just an average player and Lewis might have gotten injured and went from an All-Star to a role player.

    We'll never know what would have happened if those two talented young men had lived, we'll just always have to wonder "what if."
     
    revgen likes this.

Share This Page