Presidential Election Aftermath: What Now / What Next?

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  1. Barnstable

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    Funny you mention that Azn. I had totally forgotten about that till I saw this video this morning:

     
    Barnstable, Sep 21, 2015
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    The thing with Trump is that he simple does not care.

    His MO is getting HIS points across, making the supporters go "YAY!!!", and win the candidacy that way. In no way, shape, or form are Trump's angles and plans have any direction or legitimacy, it's all a facade.

    Fiorina has is a little bit more direct with her objectives, but I simple do not agree with most of her points of views. Yes, the Planned Parenthood debacle is a travesty, and I do NOT agree with what happened. But it should NOT be defunded, but rather reformed and rebranded into something that is more direct and monitored than what PP currently is. There is MORE to that program than abortions.

    Elizabeth Warren has been a great voice and is so much more experienced and passionate than Hillary. Here's her speech regarding PP:



    She would make a strong VP next to Bernie.
     
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    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

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    I was surprised Warren didn't run. I like her
     
    Barnstable, Sep 21, 2015
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie selects her as a running mate.
     
    lakerfan2, Sep 21, 2015
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    Warren lying about her race will continue to haunt her.

    She also claims to be for the poor, but is filthy rich, making $100K from teaching just one course. Most of her money is from Wall Street (the very people she criticizes).

    Typical politician: do as I say, not as I do.
     
    John3:16, Sep 21, 2015
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    This.
     
    John3:16, Sep 21, 2015
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    If that's all true, I no longer like her.
     
    Barnstable, Sep 21, 2015
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    Yeah, Warren's been marred by her "I'm Native American" issue.
     
    lakerfan2, Sep 21, 2015
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    Scott Walker dropped out.

    Ideally, we'd have about 6 in each party running. GOP has too many. Left has too few.
     
    John3:16, Sep 21, 2015
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    Ah yes people should come out in defense of heavily edited tapes, as oppose to outright bigotry that has no merit right in front of them.

    Plus, i think Carly was referring to the wrong thing, here's what PP is actually doing:

    http://www.theonion.com/article/planned-parenthood-opens-8-billion-abortionplex-20476

    You can be rich and at the same time advocate for public policies in favor of the poor. FDR is an example. JFK is another.
    And really? You're going to knock someone for making $100k teaching a course, when we have politicians like Trump, Romney, Hillary and Kerry that make millions of dollars doing less than noble work? Wall Street and the Republicans were the sole reason she was not confirmed as director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, so the idea that she is in the pockets of Wall Street does not make any sense. Please site sources.

    All politicians suck, however, some are better than others and Elizabeth Warren is one of them.

    It's not. See above.

    How?

    She won her senate seat in Massachusetts and is a leading voice in the progressive movement. She seems to be doing fine to me.
     
    Azndude2190, Sep 21, 2015
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    Most of Warren's reported campaign contributions come from moveon.org, EMILY's list, and Harvard University.
    LINK

    If she's receiving money from Wall Street, it's not being reported.
     
    revgen, Sep 21, 2015
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    I'm not saying her political financing come from Wall Street. I'm saying her personal fortune.
     
    John3:16, Sep 21, 2015
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    Carson taking heat for saying he would not support a Muslim as president and that Islam and our Constitution don't mix.

    Thoughts?
     
    John3:16, Sep 22, 2015
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    It's in the Constitution that religion is not a a test for office. Carson's been under fire even from fellow GOP candidates for that comment.

    He'll be next to drop out after Walker. He's just not a strong candidate at all.
     
    lakerfan2, Sep 22, 2015
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    He's currently in 3rd place. While many be turned off by his comments, one thing he's not is PC. Ask him a question and he'll answer it. Not in the sophomoric ways of Trump, but still honest in his response. I don't think he'll be the next one to drop out.
     
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    I laughed out loud at this one:

    “I think he can turn this country into what it once was – A desolate wasteland ruled by flying reptiles and terrifying animals.” - Dana Gould re: Trump on The Dana Gould Hour
     
    Barnstable, Sep 22, 2015
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    the thing with trump isn't really that he doesn't care

    it's that he's absolutely clueless on any matter besides finance.

    "President Trump, what do you plan to do in response to the devastating hurricane that ripped through the Southeast?"

    Trump: "Uhhhh, well uhhhhh....Mexicans....hurrrr durrrrr"

    this is one of the crappiest fields for any presidential race in a while, bernie sanders is the only logical pick out of all these clowns
     
    432J, Sep 23, 2015
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    3rd place? Wow, I would have assumed Fiorina and Jeb! would be above him, even Cruz.
     
    lakerfan2, Sep 23, 2015
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    Agree. Well, as bad as the last 2 elections.

    A socialist? No Thanks.

    I don't like Trump, but have you noticed it's all about him. And when anyone gets near him in the polls, they attack them (Carson and Fiorina). At the same time the conservative media is going after Hillary. Next month it'll be a new group they're after.
     
    John3:16, Sep 23, 2015
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    A very interesting article for those who have a fondness for Carly Fiorina. Long article, but worth reading.

    LINK
     
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