right--what i don't understand is that you'd buy in just hoping? i guess i figured these guys had made enough phone calls to know what was possible. this is why i felt like there must be more to the story. like, they bought at 56 feeling like their guy or guys would be there, and then they weren't. but if you bought in with a plan to move up, you should have known whether moving up was possible, imo. again, not a big deal at all, but i just want to know how it went down, which would be an insight into how these things normally go down.
The fat shaming on here is disappointing. i’m going to give my boy props for getting offered any kind of contract. Damn impressive!
We did the same last year. I think we wanted Veesar or that Omyesu(?) center that went to Atlanta via Clippers. Or someone else. We only had a second (2032). So we bought one to have 2. You can't do trades with things you don't have. There must be a thousand conversations going on and you can't make deals without having the assets. So we bought one and moved to conversations about moving up. It didn't materialize and our guys weren't there so we took a step back. I don't see the issue, seems pretty standard. We lost nothing in the process. It worked out last year, it didn't this year. It happens
If it’s standard, why do I have no recollection of it happening previously (buying a pick then selling it)? Is that really a routine thing?
29 of the 30 2nd round picks were traded. Picks are traded all the time and teams forgo their picks if who they want is not there. We tried something, couldn't get it and disregarded the pick because it had no use to us at that point. We literally did this last year with success. Bought the 56 and traded up until the 37 or wtv for Adou. We tried the same but couldn't find a path. It's harder to move to, say, the 49 without a pick. So we bought one in the 50s and started talking with teams to move up. It came up blank Don't really see the issue, it's kind of a moot point.
no, we didn't. last year, we successfully bought in and traded up. this year we bought in and couldn't trade up. feel like i've explained this four times now: my thought is that you don't buy in if you don't know either a) trading up is possible or b) the guy you're after is going to be there. so again i ask: is there an example of time when a team bought a pick then sold the pick? it is a moot point in outcome, but not in process. edit: this is not unlike years ago, when we maneuvered for cap space that ended up being useless, which may be happening again.
I think you're being stubborn and simplifying something it's not that simple. How do you trade up without a pick? How do you play it out? You make a gentlemen's agreement with the Mavs for #56 and tell them to wait until you're able to have all the necessary deals in place to get into top40? Is that reasonable? With the risk of then going back to the Mavs and they already made a deal with someone else? You talk with other teams and say "we'll give you #56, trust me bro"? I don't think it makes sense. You first get an asset that cost you NOTHING. It's money that will literally go into vacuum on June 30. Then you try additional deals. It just happened we couldn't find one. That's fine. Hell, maybe we trade up or someone REALLY wanted a guy in our draft pick and we get an additional second for the future or wtv. It just makes a LOT of sense to get an asset for nothing and see how it plays out. It didn't, but we gave ourselves a shot. We lost literally nothing to get it and absolutely no harm done. I'm really missing any downside from this
I’m with you.they probably bought in with some handshake deals to move up only to be told by the other team they got a better deal
no, you're with me! what were those handshake deals and who backed out? if there were no handshake deals, that's a whole different story, man. if it's just plain ol' good business and the money means nothing, why don't we see this every year? why doesn't every team with any cash left over just buy all the picks and hope someone else will buy it from them or whatever? this doesn't make sense to me.
Because owners are cheap or don't see the value, dunno. I think most teams don't give profit. Owners only profit when they sell so it's hard to justify spending a few million in late 2nd rounds. Most teams have picks too, we literally have only 1 SRP and the 2 FRPs for bigger deals. So it's the only way to add assets. I'm with you I'd use it all the time but I'm an asset sicko lol I learned there is 8.5M every year and gets reset July 1. It doesn't impact the cap space but it does come from the club's budget/owner pockets. I mean I found it pretty crazy to spend 5M to move up one spot, like we did for the #24. But apparently we can. Walter possibly helps and we may do it more now. I mean Chicago did it too to buy ours Just checked: Miami, Pistons, Clippers, Indiana, Milwaukee, Hawks and Chicago used it too. Fair amount of teams https://www.nba.com/news/2026-offseason-trade-tracker
I always wondered where and how the money became available and its impact on the cap for “buying” 2nd round picks … thanks.
