2015 Free Agent Discussion

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  1. therealdeal

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    I just want a warm body up there worth about 5-10 minutes per game. With Sweet Lou, Clarkson, Russell, and Kobe or Nick we've got a lot of bodies to throw at that position. I like Jabari for that role, but we definitely need depth there at the PG spot. I think Ridnour would be a great fit. I know most hate him, but I think Blake makes some sense. I like the Chalmers idea because it gives us a guy who is actually capable of more minutes than that if we need it, but whose stock is so low that the Heat want just a 2nd rounder for him. Not to mention it gives us a way to clear roster space/salary for other positions of need. We don't really need a guy like Chalmers, but it'd be helpful.

    I really do like the Ridnour/Blake kind of idea though. Andre Miller would be ideal, but I imagine he'd want to sign with a more competitive squad.
     
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    Miller? Absolutely... Ridnour? Yes. Blake? Ehhhh...he has some familiarity here. He's a better option than Ridnour. I was not aware Chalmers has fallen that far. If he can be had, he can even be a starter if Russell struggles and needs time to take it all in.
     
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    I still feel we have three positions to fill. A backup PG, a legit SF, and a backup Center. By waiving or trading Kelly/Sacre we open up two spots and there really isn't anyone I'm too keen on moving to create that third roster spot.
     
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    True. I would love to sign Dorrell Wright if we could somehow offload Kelly or Sacre. A long 3 and D type of player is exactly what this team could use right now, because he would give us solid production from the wing spot without demanding the ball in ISO situations, leaving more opportunity for our young back court to grow into their individual offensive games. Think Thabo Sefalosha effect on the Thunder type of thing.
     
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    I don't know why Mitch addressed it either, but I don't know why we're looking for another guard.

    We have 3 guys VERY capable of running PG in Lou, Clarkson, and Russell. Both of those guys can also play some SG as well.

    As for backup Center, I think Black is plenty capable of playing 24+ minutes behind Hibbert in very productive minutes. Defensively, it's not ideal, but he's a workhorse and will definitely throw down with most.

    I'm not 100% with our wing situation between Jabari behind Clarkson, and a SF rotation of Kobe/Young/Brown. I feel we need a veteran who can play consistently on the wing.
     
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    I really think the roster is fine as it is, we have a ton of guys that are going to be playing multiple positions. Assuming our starting lineup is Russell-Clarkson-Kobe-Bass-Hibbert, Lou and Clarkson should both be able to play some backup PG. Kobe, Lou, Jabari, and Nick will see some minutes at backup SG. Nick, Randle, Nance, Brown should be able to play backup SF. Randle, Tarik, Nance should be able to play backup PF. Tarik & Sacre backup C if Upshaw ends up in the D-League or doesn't sign with us.
     
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    Wright is a veteran I'm really high on and would love to have on this team, plus I'm sure he can teach Brown a thing or two about that 3 and D role.
     
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    I would like a veteran PG, someone like Andre Miller, to come in and help mentor Russell/Clarkson. We would also then have that veteran presence/leadership coming off the bench if needed. While I do agree that Clarkson can play PG if needed I believe he's a better fit at SG. As for Lou, he's really not much of a PG. He's basically a much shorter version of Nick Young, someone with a score first mentality.
     
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    In terms of being a traditional PG, no Lou isn't. But like Westbrook, like Rose, like these scoring type point guards, they are by size. At one point, Lou did also average a modest 4 apg running point for the Sixers, so it isn't completely out of his territory. And off the bench, that is really good.
     
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    I think SF is the biggest need. I just don't want 24 logging too much minutes there. Unfortunately, the one I wanted is going to Sacramento.
     
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    I agree with XXIV. We need some other real players on this team, starting with a vet backup PG. If we can get a legit SF in addition that would be gravy. I'm not as concerned about backup Center because I feel Tarik Black can handle that, plus if we get rid of Sacre we can add Upshaw who I like a lot. That's three deep there.

    PG and SF would be awesome. Hopefully Mitch can swing something like that and get rid of Kelly/Swaggy/Sacre. We could win more games I think if we could do that rather than go as currently constructed.
     
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    Hibbert will get the lion's share of the minutes there. A vet point would be good but I think Russell and Clarkson will be alright there even if they are young. They will both learn and lean on each other as the season progresses plus they have 24, Williams, Young [?] as security blankets. Both are also unafraid of the moment...and more importantly have some sort of working chemistry in place.
     
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    In his career Hibbert has averaged roughly 25 minutes a game, so if he plays the same amount next season that means there is still 23 minutes available. Tarik just doesn't have the size of someone I would personally want playing that many minutes at center. And then we have Sacre whose only good use is his cheering antics on the bench.
     
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    Which is why we're probably looking at Seraphin; he and Black can split the remaining minutes at the 5. When I heard we were interested in Seraphin, I had thoughts of the Lakers signing him to play a Fetzus Ezeli type role. Either way, you sign Upshaw, split the remaining minutes that Hibbert isn't playing with Black/Seraphin, and we'll be okay, IMO.
     
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    I have no problem with Tarik playing 20-24 minutes a night. None at all! He was extremely productive in a starting capacity last season both for us and for the Rockets. I think he's definitely capable of playing those minutes even if he's under-sized.
     
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    The best fit right now at the 3 is Dorrell Wright. Decent 3-point shooter, good length to play the 3, and could realistically give us 16-18 mpg at the 3.
     
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    Just me but another big to back up center at this point. Dumbest f*****g thing ever. We're freaking covered if you keep dirt cheap, serviceable Sacre. Black in front of him who NEEDS to play. Too much value to sit on bench for long periods. Convince Upshaw's agent to sign, fix Him, fix Roy and let's roll with the bigs. Get a great 3 or 2 or combo guard back up we need. How excellent would Andre Miller be? Or name your other guy. Don't spend any money on this and make sure Upshaw is in the fold. Spend a little on him if necessary.
     
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    Sacre is serviceable in terms of being able to provide 6 fouls but other than that he doesn't do much else. Resigning him was a waste of a roster spot. I would have much preferred if we used his spot on the team to sign Upshaw instead.
     
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    Damn it Mitch!
     
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    Apparently Miller is close with Flip. Only way he'd choose a crappy team like Minnesota I suppose.
     

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