To Serve And Protect

It's not about race. Barnstable has this notion that Police have some sort of racial agenda or that police contact with blacks plays out quite different than it would with a white person... I don't buy that. This is basically what Anti-Police movements wants...

https://video.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net...=92e9cc9086e67b5642a6814b4bdd2389&oe=55B349F6

 

Young Black man wearing "G" in a hanging out across the street from a elementary school. Young White man driving through a southern all black neighborhood in a 70's shaker can pickup with 2 confederate flags flying proud. Dark skinned man with a long black beard with a backpack walking back and forth in front of a post office

Should a cop stop, talk or to any of them? If you are in any of those situations are you uneasy?

Are there bad cops? Sure. Are there bad Black people? Sure. Are there bad people? yup! We've set up our society in the last 150 years to put a group of public servants between us and our protection. We've given them the power to make decisions on what they think is dangerous to the rest of society. I think we are seeing some of the fall out from that and that nothing is perfect.

My personal thoughts are that my personal protection is my responsibility not the government's but this isn't the current line of thought. I'd rather see everyone take responsibility for themselves not only in protection but in a whole lot of things.

 

That would result in anarchy my good friend. Despite people wanting to see the good in other human beings... it just won't pan out.

 

How would you go about implementing this?

 

Protecting yourself is the most fundamental of all "Rights" IMHO.

The reality of the math is that our Police forces rarely "stop" crime before it happens. They "solve" murders about 85% of the time and theft less than 20% of the time but that doesn't do the victims any good. The thought that the police "protect" is really not founded in the math or in reality. If someone wants to kill you they most likely will unless you are prepared to stop it personally.

There is a false sense of security in our country. When we have a significant break in our economy (IMHO not a question of if but when) there will be no protection from it from the police. If you don't have the ability to protect yourself then shame on you.

I carry a gun every day. The thought that I'm somehow a danger to society because of this is just about the most twisted logic out there these days. I think everyone should be trained to use a gun in the same manner they are trained to drive. Not a popular thought in this society at this point in time but I've been where there is a lot of really bad crap happening and I can tell you that no police force in the world could have stopped it before it happened. Just isn't possible.

As for "anarchy". We got money, food and distractions right now as a county. Any of that go away suddenly and there will be anarchy of varying degrees. No one can stop it. I don't like the idea of militarized police forces. I like even less the idea of Federal Police forces. Too many innocents have died at the hands of "protectors" in the last couple hundred years when you look at the history of it objectively.

What do you get when Federal and local police begin to cooperate? V-STAG. It's a "pre-crime" program being foisted on us by the very ones against "profiling". Wrap it in an "anti-bullying" rhetoric and it's OK.

Also, be careful what you tweet. http://phys.org/news/2014-04-twitter-crime.html

Minority Report coming true

 

You carry a gun, and you think this gives you some sort of personal security? OK. As long as it helps you think it does and makes you happier.

That, however, is as much a false sense of security as anything.

I used to carry a freaking M16 for 3 years, and it didn't help my sense of security at all, as I've seen people in bulletproof vests and helmets, and with
multiple guns, killed with a knife.

I hope you never have to use that gun.

 

First off. Thanks for your service.

Happier has nothing to do with it.

Statistically speaking I am more secure in a lot of possible situations having a gun. The idea that not having a gun and being safer is the thought that is not supported by statistics. Guns are one of the safest "machines" in our country currently. 380 Million privately owned guns kill 2,500 people annually. Registered guns in the hands of their registered owners kill less than 100 people annually. 250 Million cars kill nearly 40,000 annually. 380,000 people die each year in Hospitals from infections or mistakes not related to their reason for going there.

The gun debate is based in emotion and more sinister desires IMHO. You cannot make a society statistically more safe by restricting legal ownership of guns. Accidental and purposeful deaths in this country because of guns are very small in relation to other accidental and purposeful deaths statistically.

The reason I'm safer is that I can react to a deadly situation in seconds. Reaching for my cell phone when someone is threatening me or my family will result in a 30 minute wait minimum before a cop will get there.

 

I've already said that there are racist cops and racist black people. So what? It will always be with us. There is irrational discrimination everywhere in life. Look at how followers of political ideologies treat each other.

It seems that the implication is that it's "systemic". That I don't believe and I don't think there is statistical evidence to support that. Incarcerations follow a pretty clear path 90% of the time. Mental health, addiction, poverty, lack of education, unemployment are the things that define our incarcerated populations for the most part not skin color, at least as a determinant. White cops in a predominantly Black area where crime is high will encounter more criminal behavior in Blacks.

I guess the debate here is on whether or not there is a problem. For argument's sake lets say we all agree that Cops are out for Black folk. Lets move to what solution there is for it.

 

Whoa. OK then.

 

You are welcome, even though it wasn't in the US army

 

I didn't say thanks for your service in the US Army

Anyone who serves deserves thanks. Not enough people get what that's about.

 

So you're statement is, some of these cops are sub consciously racist because they react to things more differently when it would involve a black suspect rather than a white/Asian/Hispanic, Indian or any other subject?

 

In looking at the raw statistics of Police Officers shooting people going back to 1968...

1968:
8.6 Deaths for Blacks per 1 Million population
.9 Deaths for Whites per 1 Million population

2014:
2.78 Deaths for Blacks per 1 Million population
1.28 Deaths for Whites per 1 Million population

These are from a matrix of population statistics kept by a number of government agencies including the CDC and Census.

Since the "Civil Rights" movement there has been nearly a 75% decrease in deaths to Blacks by Police officers. A 30% increase for Whites. (I didn't list Hispanics or Asian as their rates were nearly the same).

This has nothing to do with innocence of the victim, Black or White but only shows the raw numbers of deaths.

Our data bases are partly proprietary, part Government, part state and part corporate. We typically have the widest data sets available.

The question of Black Deaths at the hands of White cops is a difficult one. No one source can list meaningful data of who had a gun, who was threatening, who was shot for no reason (conviction of cop). While there are websites that purport to keep White officer on Black deaths by public media reports they seem less than scientific.

The only true verifiable trend is that deaths at the hands of cops is down pretty significantly in terms % of population since the early 60's. You can cross reference criminal conviction % per 1000 of each race and then filter the data to get one way of looking at it (which is the statistically proper way) or you can just filter by % of population for both (media way most of the time). The first way shows about double the decrease. The second way is listed above.

I don't doubt that there are many "suspects" that are killed wrongly by police. I don't doubt that there are more blacks killed than whites. I don't doubt that the officers doing the shooting are a larger % white than minority. These are all statistically probable based on some very sound statistical trends within our population. Nothing in the statistics can prove or disprove "racism" as a factor. Math can't quantify someone's mental state.