Austin Reaves Discussion: How Much Is He Worth?

How many significant players are they going to get with that cap space? One? How many significant players could they get by trading AR? Probably 2 IMO.This team needs multiple players to fix this mess

 

If we flame out in the playoffs (which we will), we need to take a serious look at the organisation top to bottom. The only safe person is Luka.

 

We don't have 50m in cap space if Lebron leaves. I've made posts about it before - it's roughly 40m in cap space.

 

Watson,Kessler or Eason are significant and they are only going to get one of those guys with 40-45 mil in cap space and that’s only if their current team doesn’t match.Obviously not an ideal situation

 

Like @Cookie said, AR is not the problem.

Luka and AR are our strength. The role player are our problem. We need defense, athletism, and perimeter shooting. Trading away AR will introduce more problems --- scoring, secondary ball-handling, and playmaking.

We have $40M in cap space, draft capital and limited players that may be useful to other teams. That should be enough to address most of our problems this summer.

If it were up to me, I'd replace our entire front office before trading AR. Their poor decision-making (Caruso, Goodwin, etc), drafting (JHS and Knecht), and inability to sign good role players, is inexcusable.

 

Those players aren't going to demand $40M+. We will have cap space, draft picks and a couple of tradeable players to fill out the roster.

 

Two FAs making $20 mill per, along with a couple of smart trades would go a loooong way this summer.

 

Forgetting or ignoring one important detail.you will have to out bid their current team to sign them.

 

What two free agents are you getting for 20mil?

 

ROFL. The s*** in here is just so funny. I don't think they know the cap. They just see the big "number" and think it's going to be so easy with a lack of assets, some draft picks, players most teams don't want (unless we're attaching an asset), and think it's going to fix this summer.

Then, to top it off, everybody saying, "Austin isn't the problem," when nobody every said he is, but he is not the solution. S&T his a** and we'll need an intervention on this site.

 

Still doesn't look to be 100% but getting there. Good game AR.

 

wiggins (i could see him opting out and taking a longer deal at lower money) and grimes?

but yes, it's not super realistic to get two FAs. but we could potentially sign one and trade for another using the remainder of space and picks.

 

Maybe trying to absorb a contract like Wiggins or a Divincenzo would be an easier road.I understand that Watson would be preferred by most of us but it’s a slippery slope with RFA.

 

i think RFA is the last resort after attempting to get a trade done first. and that's fine, as RFA is always the last thing that happens in FA because all the deals are basically done before FA officially opens (which is when RFA deals can be signed).

if we're fully holding the bag after the first round of action, we may just make a stupid high offer on some RFAs that decline over time.

i'd make calls to agents of RFAs letting them know about this, too, so they don't agree to a contract before our space has been spoken for, as they could stand to make a bunch more if they wait.

 

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Free Agent A= $20 million per
Free Agent B(or trade for player B)= $20 million per
Last time I checked, that equates to $40 million
It’s not my job to find and sign them- it’s Rob’s.
You should be able to sign one and at least trade for the other.
As for Austin, you are just dead wrong. Did the guy run over your dog? Every single GM in the NBA would love to have him on their team. Your troll card shows every single time you complain about the kid.

 

The players we're aiming for are going to over $20 million - they're averaging $30 million plus per season. It just isn't realistic. It's going to take 2-3 transaction windows to get this team built correctly around Luka.

As for Austin, he's isn't a number 2, and if the Lakers believed that, they wouldn't be pursuing Giannis this summer; they'd be all in on build the best team around Luka & Austin and devoting every resource around them, IMO. Giannis wouldn't even be a thought, IMO.

But you guys keep believing that - he'll likely get paid, but the Lakers are going to have to keep looking for a Luka co-star because Austin simply isn't it.

You'll figure that out at some point, though.

 

the number i keep seeing is 45, but i've also seen 54.

here's what we know for sure:

luka gets 50
vando gets 12
laravia gets 6
knecht gets 4
theiro gets 2

ayton and smart have POs at 8 and 6ish, respectively.

you must carry 14 players, and empty roster charges are 1.3. bronny technically gets 2.2, but is actually only guaranteed 1.3 (clever). so here, his salary slot can function as an empty roster charge.

the cap is projected at 166, tax at 202, apron 1 at 210. guessing only apron 1 is relevant to us, though i could see us staying under the tax itself in certain situations.

the big question is reaves's cap hold. it's basically either 21 or 27. i still think it's 21, but pincus is saying 27. it all depends on whether his 13.9m this year is above or below league average salary. projections i've seen have the average salary for the nba at 12.7 this year, which would make reaves's cap hold 150% (instead of 190%) of his 14m.

you probably want hayes's cap hold (about 7m), though you might not...

i'm not factoring kennard's cap hold, and i'm wondering if we've already told him he'll get the room mle if we operate under the cap (which i expect) or something close to it using his bird rights if we operate over it.

if it's 21, you have that plus the 74 guaranteed to the 5 players listed at top, so that's 95. but that's only six guys under contract, so you have 8x1.3, which we'll call 11 for empty roster charges. that's 106 (60m in room). let's drop one of those and keep hayes's cap hold, adding 6 million to the total. that gives you the 54 number.

all that assumes ayton and smart opt out. one or both could opt in (my money would be on ayton in, smart out). ayton opts in, you're down to 47 in room. smart opts in, you're down to 49. both opt in, you're down to 42.

none of the above mentions rui's or lebron's cap holds, which could bring us all the way back over the cap. why would that matter? it probably won't, but in a weird world where we could find a s&t for lebron that all parties liked, this could become a thing. i just don't think we sacrificed all this in order to go that route. it would mean we learned ahead of FA that like, nobody was going anywhere.