Rob Pelinka Discussion: BBall Ops Pres + GM (AKA: Lucky Rob)

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    I just don’t want him and Jeanie leading anything. My hope is Walter leading it, and putting a staff around that is super competent, I just don’t trust Rob being the final say guy. Maybe the other added minds in the room can report back to Walter how good or not good he is at his job, there’s been zero accountability for him to this point, and there needs to be.
     
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    as we've been over, i'm not as worried about rob being the decision maker. i've never liked the idea of him doing it all by himself, though. pretty much nobody does that. and if the response is that we have the rambis braintrust, that's worse. it's insular, which can lead to groupthink and poor decisions (or at least decisions that are as bad as if one person makes them alone).

    i'll be watching closely to see who we hire. if we don't bring in some bona fide front office folks from elsewhere, i'll be annoyed. walter's money is supposed to help with this exact kind of thing.
     
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    Yes, this. This is the main thing I’ve wanted changed all along, if Rob stays, just change this at least. I just personally think Rob and the rambii like things how they are, if there’s no accountability you don’t have to really ever change what you’re doing and you can’t be fired. That’s just the impression I get based on evidence, articles, rumors, these people like running the org like kings and queens and have no desire to cede any power.

    Magic was awful, so it wasn’t a big loss, but Rob clearly pushed him out, and to me that says he wanted to be in full control of this thing and maybe isn’t super trustworthy. That’s part of why I could see this getting messy depending who is brought in, people in complete power don’t always like to share it, and if they don’t bring in people with strong enough voices or enough authority, not much will change. I’m just not sure he’s that guy, that collaborative guy, I guess we’ll see in time. That said, I also don’t see the point in hanging onto him when Walter has like unlimited money, just go poach the best out there, why waste more time seeing if Rob is the guy. I dunno, that’s just my take.
     
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    I have little faith in an entrepreneur making a $10 billion investment and essentially handing over the management and decision-making of the company to the people already in charge. It doesn't seem very credible to me for a lot of reasons, especially because it would mean believing that the current management is capable of managing and enhancing the value of the asset you own, without appointing trusted people.

    Because, at the same time, if you keep Jeanie and Rob firmly in place, appointing trusted people could lead to unnecessary and possibly harmful internal feuds.
     
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    with the way contracts and relationships work, is this easy? and do we know the best is?

    like, i think brad stevens is obviously quite good, but could he do the same here with our expectations? can we even talk to him without boston's approval (is it like poaching coaches?)?

    masai ujiri is a free agent, but...he was also basically fired by the raptors.

    i agree that if rob can't handle having new voices added to the mix, he should be fired. and i think he will be if that's how it goes. after the magic thing, walter's eyes will be on just that, imo. mine would. just don't hire a magic. hire someone who's worked up through the ranks in the business, has relationships, etc.
     
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    Obviously the money has a lot to do with the success of the Dodgers but that organization has also made it a place where players want to be because of the attention they get off the field.Im not sure if they still do this but I’m going to assume they do,They have/had a food truck go on the road with their minor league teams so the players always ate healthy and regular.
    I feel this around the edges support makes the Dodgers a place players want to be and hopefully will do the same for the Lakers


    • The Mobile Unit: Known as a "mobile unit," this trailer is towed by a truck and travels ahead of the team to road venues to ensure players have nutritious, freshly cooked meals, rather than relying on fast food or inconsistent clubhouse catering.
    • Coverage: This program covers Dodgers minor league affiliates from Double-A down to the rookie-level leagues.
    • Quality Focused: Unlike the notorious, low-quality, or sometimes nonexistent, meals previously provided in the minor leagues, the Dodgers' initiative is designed to provide high-level, chef-prepared food to support player health and performance.
     
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    I’m in agreement that we need to have a team of decision makers in the FO. I’m fine with Rob being one of them, but I don’t want him to have the most power either.
    As several have stated before, we need execs with good relationships throughout the League. Why not add several of these to increase your odds when it comes to trades?
     
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    Oh boy wow don't give JJ ideas, imagine how defensively horrid that lineup would be
     
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    promise jj came up with this before rob, lol.
     
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    I personally don’t think it’s unknown that we aren’t a good defensive team. So throwing out different line up ideas isn’t a big thing to me. It’s not like a commitment written in stone.
     
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    I actually do think it says a lot about Rob and why our rosters are always offense heavy, and I agree some with his expanded thoughts. I don’t think Rob really has any basketball vision other than here are some stars, and some other guys. But, whatever, we’re stuck with him for now



    I didn’t agree with how upset Irwin was about using the 15th spot on Bufkin though, was very doom and gloom for a spot there doesn’t currently seem anyone better out there could fill. I just hope he gets some playing time to actually see if his game translates to the big league, if it’s worth using his team option next season. At some point we have to start TRYING to find one of these useful players this way, giving them actual playing time and some rope to make mistakes. Here’s Pincus on our options as well

     
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