Luka Doncic Discussion: Lean Mean Slovenian Extension Machine

He's turnover per 100 possession is definitely higher what he did since his first few years in the league. And he absolutely misses opportunities to reset the the offense or the rotation swing passes. He's a home run hitter with his passes and not a traditional PG - I mean the whole heliocentric term came around Harden and Luka for a reason. Not really how to quantify this TBH (percent time held with the ball before a pass?).

He's played with Brunson and then Kyrie but the Lakers have 2 guys who are equal or better then those two at their stages of their careers so he has more tools he didn't have to work with in the past and I think he can use them better.

 

i mean...higher than peak but much closer to that than trough. it's better than jokic, turnover-wise, for comparison purposes. it's not SGA levels, but his whole thing is not turning it over. his lack of risk-taking and playmaking creativity is also why the thunder are beatable, imo.

my point is that constructing a narrative that luka is a turnover-prone guy hunting assists is some b*******. if you weren't doing that, ok, but that's how it read to me. the numbers don't support it, and i don't see harden when i see luka. i see the guy the fans/media said harden was (when he was actually just a guy who knew how to maximize his stats, winning be damned).

as for better tools...i don't know. i'm guessing you mean lebron? because otherwise (and in some cases including him), he has some defensively-challenged guys who don't make open shots right now. since we traded for him, we've been in scramble mode to get the right supporting cast, and it hasn't come to fruition yet.

you can win a title with this version of luka. again, he's the least of our problems. he's the start of a solution. we need to get the rest right now.

 

I mean he has both Lebron and AR now. He definitely hasn't played with two guys who are elite playmakers (the third best offensive player was liek Tim Hardaway Jr or Porzingis take your pick). And I really don't think he's maximized that. I'm fine with taking flack that yes he holds the ball instead of resetting the offense or swinging the ball - I've commented in game chat so it's not something that is new which I think he can improve on.

I'm not really sure where any of my posting leads one to think you can't win a title with Luka or saying he's not a great player. The level of reaction to a mild criticism of his game is strange since one reason he gets into trouble is he's so good, he gets into trouble on some moves which look breathtaking at other times (behind the back thru the legs to beat a double is not a move most even elite player will contemplate doing). Again is there nothing Luka can do to move up to be in that tier with Jokic and Shai? I think he can because it's not just total team wins why he's not at that tier in the MVP rankings this year.