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Wasn't sure they were going to pay him. Makes him harder to move but they do have a zillion picks.
I don't think he's the guard for them long term, but he'll elevate their floor in the short term while Castle, Harper and Bryant (and Wemby for that matter) develop.

Spurs will be a force, we'll have a super entertaining West with OKC, Spurs and Lakers with the potential to be real forces for the next decade

 

That salary is what might make him overrated. Compared to Fox's time in San Antonio, this past season Austin Reaves averaged more points, rebounds, 3's, FT's, and better FG%, 3P%, 2P%, FT%, and eFG%. Fewer assists and steals. Better ORTG, DRTG, BPM, OBPM, DBPM, WS, OWS, DWS, LEBRON, O-LEBRON, LEBRON WAR, Net Points, O Net Points, D Net Points, WAR, O-WAR, D-WAR, and VORP. Yes, Fox was better in Sacramento, with numbers similar or close to Austin as a 2nd option, but for far longer. Fox is also slightly older and smaller.

My point is not to say that Austin is better than Fox, but simply that they're in the same ballpark, but Fox will be making $50-60 million/yr, and some people aren't sure if Austin will be worth $30-40 million/yr.

 

he's a great fit for the current roster, imo. they've got the shooting to space for him and to cover for what is surprisingly meh defense for such an athletic guy. by the time the contract looks bad, it will be almost over. meanwhile, all those picks means they can angle to replace him or develop replacements.

i wish okc and SA weren't so well set for the foreseeable future, but they are.

up to us to try and build around luka and compete with them.

 

Marinate on this!!!!!!!!!!!! Now

Dearen Fox 4 yrs. 229 million

Luka Doncic 3 yrs. 165 million.

does that make sense?????? How’s that grab ya????? We got Luka!!!!!!

 

Not you that was generated at the haters.

 

San Antonio spiraling like Drake in Euphoria if they keep not making the playoffs with that Roster. Them young players gotta get paid.

and if Mr. Wambyana wants tinsletown Luka is there.

Shaq Kareem Wilt Gasol Ayton I’m just saying!!!!

We are pretty we either have Ayton Jokic or Wambyana.

Fox isn’t a great fit. Because he can’t shoot. But they were forced to pay him. A Reed Shepard or a Luka Doncic would be a better fit. Because of their ability to shoot and bring players out. That’s why I said Tre Johnson.

Fox is great. But he’s not the type of guard that is going to pull players out to the perimeter With their ability as shooters. Simple as that. He can’t shoot. But they paid.

like if San Antonio had Shai they would be better.

Tier 1

Doncic
Shai
Edwards

tier2

Young
Fox
Morant
Garland
Mitchell

 

Like I said LeBron privately reached out to Luka via FaceTime to congratulate him on his contract so all the hub jub was that hub jub. LeBron is happy.

but this is a 40 year old man. He doesn’t have to do all the bonding. Lebron ain’t flying on private in space or anything to go see the Backstreet Boys with the guys. Ain’t happening. Let the young fellas do that.

but when we talk about Luka chose the Lakers it’s like Lebron did the same thing. Lebron was the face coming here and now Luka is the face. That is awkward.

And nobody has said. Luka was traded for Anthony Davis LeBrons best friend on the team. Anthony Davis was here in L.A. because of LeBron. They are family. And I know it’s a buisness but LeBron maybe felt a sense of loyalty and might have seen that as rubbing it in his face. I completely get it and understand it.

Lebron didn’t have to be there.

 

no, but he is because the rest of them can. his job is to get into the paint, and he's elite at that.

technically, anyone who gets a max deal and isn't an mvp candidate is overpaid, right? but that means most max contracts are overpays. so then you just worry about fit. the beauty of wembanyama is that you can play a guard who's not a great shooter because you can play wemby anywhere on offense.

just like the beauty of luka is you can play a guard who's not a playmaker or floor general because your forward can do it. so that player becomes more valuable in your system than in others. same thing with wings who don't have ball skills. other places, they're limited. with luka, they're fine.

 

Doesn't happen often but I don't agree with you. Wemby already draws so much attention, especially in the paint. So the 2nd guy should be a knockdown shooter, imo.

Castle, Harper and Keldon Johnson (even Sochan) are bad shooters too. It's really only Vassell that can shoot and he's not a specialist either.

They did well in getting Fox for so cheap and they had to pay him. But I don't think he's the PG that will be beside Wemby when he gets his 1st ring

 

Abeer great assessment. I like all your points.

My thing is Fox is a great penetrator. But the fact is we might load the paint now because Castle Harper and Fox aren’t all elite shooters. That’s why I thought they would’ve been better drafting a Tre Johnson who is an elite shooter and the elite shooter of the draft.


with Wemby Johnson would’ve been unguardable. And that team would’ve been sizing up Rings if they drafted Kole Knep.

that’s the perfect player for that team. A lockdown shooter with Foxs Penetration and Wemby inside a shooter like that with that spacing who can sit on the perimeter and shoot threes and he can penetrate and dish. That dude is an elite star. I’m glad he will waist in Charlotte cause that’s the floor spacer San Antonio needs.


A better fit for San Antonio and if I were there GM I would explore that trade. Is Trae Young for Dearen Fox. Both clutch guys. Trey is a great shooter and the way he penetrates with Wemby bringing guys out to him.? Now that would be hard to defend.

see Luka would be the perfect player for Wemby. That’s why I like Ayton so much. Now he’s not in Wenbys category. But having that big that can make that 15 foot jump shot and bring you out is huge. Now Luka can just dictate what he wants to do in that pick and Roll. Ayton can shoot it throw it down put it on the floor. It’s not even close. Very hard to guard.

with Hayes he’s like what do I do??? I can’t shoot. And now you have LeBron on the other side. The defense is really flat footed,

I haven’t even mentioned Reaves. So it’s a hard cover.

that’s why Utah was so good with their pick and role. Malone was automatic 15 feet jumper and could just go inside to the basket at 6,9” and Stockton can shoot and go inside.

and they had Hornaceck on the perimeter spacing the floor it was a hard cover.

We have Luka who can shoot it anywhere and Ayton with LeBron all the athleticsm at the rim just makes the spacing on the court that good.


You would see what Lebron and Curry would look like. But this will make LeBron have such easier basketball. Like when he played with Kyrie. The guy was putting guys on skates allowing LeBron to do what he wants.

when they got Kevin Love it just made them that much better and that’s why they won the championship. Same thing I see here.

 

Keep in Mind Luka is younger than Shai.

 

Yes.

 

Rumble in the Temecula is a thing again! Woooo!!

 

re: SA/fox--he's the right fit for winning right now. call it phase 1 of wemby contention era. harper is supposed to be for phase 2. he's a bench guy for the next two years, imo, as should castle. if i'm them, i start vassell and barnes at the 2 and 3 this year, with wemby at the 4 and kornet at the 5. you have to respect their 2-4 guys beyond the arc. you can't smother the fox/kornet pick and roll without using wemby's (yikes) or one of the others.

long term, you hope harper and castle improve their shot, and you slot bryant in for barnes (he reminds me of young barnes).

we'll see. i don't think shooting will be the problem there. fox will have room to operate, mostly due to wemby.

 

Yeah I agree with Abeer. By the time Fox's contract starts to look bad Wemby will still be younger than Luka is now, the runway is so long with him that you can afford to have multiple iterations of the team. And there's real value in getting Wemby real playoff reps sooner rather than later, even if it's on a team that doesn't have a championship ceiling. I think it really helped Tatum and Brown to have to lead that playoff run in 2018 so early in their careers. It obviously helped Kobe turn into one of the all-time greats.

Wemby is already one of the best, if not the best, defensive player in the league, but he's still figuring things out on offense (which is terrifying). How does a Wemby-lead halfcourt offense look in the playoffs? Is he actually good enough as a shooter to keep teams from packing the paint? How efficient is he as an isolation scorer and passer when teams have scouted his tendencies? What happens if they're playing the Nuggets for example and the refs let a shorter but much stronger player like Gordon defend him like OKC was allowed to defend Jokic? I bet a lot of this stuff looks a bit shaky in his first playoff series.

 

fox is one of the most overrated players in the league

 

There are a few teams that could win a championship if everything fell right for them, including the Spurs, but they would need it all. They won't get it because that is us this season. We are a much better, much healthier version of last year's team. JJ will be better as well.

 

See I feel like he's properly rated. I think most would say he's what, like the 30th best guy in the league?

 

Oh yes, in that perspective I'm with you. It's a great fit to make them competitive and in the playoffs. You want to give Wemby (and the other guys) as much reps as they can in postseason in these early years. Boston benefited of that and it paid off.


Another topic I really wanted to bring across in this slow time of the year is the Rockets overhype. I don't get it. They will be good, but I have them 5th and in danger of being leapfrogged by the Clips or some team behind that overproduces.

Their roster doesn't fit. They have 3 centers, 5 forwards and 2 guards in their rotation. Rockets balled out when Jabari was out and Amen played the 4. Now they're going the opposite direction and he'll play mostly 2 being a bad shooter. Durant will play the 3 more when he's more of a 4 now. Sengun, Capela and Adams is too much. Will Sengun play the 4?
They have no shooting. They play fast but their 3 playmakers prefer to play slow. I think they'll take time to acclimate and it will cost them in a tough West.