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    The Center market was reset after the Steven Adams signing. We said that. It wouldn’t be shocking for Clint Capela to get 40 million.

    made no sense for the Lakers and Rob to rescind the Mark Williams trade. They snuck up on a legit Center who is 23 years old to play pick and roll with Luka grow with him. Team control big hands. Before the Center market was set. They were jumping ahead of everybody just like Luka. And they pulled back now who knows what that market looks like???

    We gotta give the farm for Ayton??? What would they command for Williams now???

    Yall stop talking Kessler. What they gonna want for Kessler???? Kings ransom. Sometimes the Lakers crack me up. But hey we got Walter’s now. No more F ups!!!!!!


    Boston yall wanna dump Porzingins over here????? We’ll take him.
     
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    I know Boston is making these moves for financial reasons, but I'm curious. Just from a strictly basketball point of view, without regards to money, business, loyalty, or anything else, if they didn't care about luxury tax, could they make a swing for the fences move to try to win more titles now?

    Like if they traded Tatum for Giannis and kept everyone. Wouldn't that team be a massive favorite to win the East next season and a favorite to win the title overall? You're above the 2nd apron, but you live with the restrictions for 1 year, and then the next year Porzingis comes off the books and you're under the 2nd apron but still have a championship core. Wouldn't that make sense basketball-wise?
     
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    I'm assuming Boston wouldn't trade with us, but this part is interesting. Rui + Kleber make the same as Porzingis. Cap experts, is there any way to trade with a 3rd team with cap space that gets Boston huge financial relief and gets us Porzingis? Even if we have to include draft capital?
     
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    If the C Bags are trying to get off of Salary they will make the trade. Business is business. And second apron is second apron. Maybe they just like Porzingis. But seems to me. He can go. They moved Holiday probably for Simmons cause probably trying to keep white. But next season seems like a lap season. So Porzingis is probably gone. Trades coming in hot.
     
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    And we got Luka from Dallas a superstar. And that has low key been our rival. They hate us.!!!!!!!!
     
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    My boy is a huge!!!!!!!!!! Lakers fan he was with me at game7 right in front of Leonardo DiCaprio when we came back from 20 fourth quarter to beat the blazers.

    very passionate. But even he thinks it’s gonna be tough to win that chip next year. Thinks OKC has it on lock. Thinks Chet is the key. Says if Chet takes that next step and goes to that next place watch out. Just think OKC is a legit great team. Thinks Carson Wallace would start for most teams.
     
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    You could involve Atlanta. They have a $25m trade exception they need to use.

    Neither Boston or Atlanta would go for this construction, but just to show how they could help financially. You COULD do something like Rui to ATL, Kleber to Boston (Boston sheds $19.7m) and Porzingis to LA and that works under everyone's CBA rules.
     
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    Tell him he's overrating OKC, and that Indy shot better than OKC in G7 and only lost bc of TO's, which means that with Hali, Indy would have won. And if he doesn't buy that, then tell him at worst, Indy was 50-50 to win the chip and OKC to be ringless. So, no, OKC does not have anything on lock. Got pushed to G7 twice, and no way to know if they would have won if Hali didn't get injured.

    Lakers can take them next season if they get a good big man and POA defender.
     
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    Awesome, thx!!! Let's include some picks and swaps and get it done!!!

    :Laugh:
     
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    That’s the kind of trade I can see us doing.
     
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    Porzingis is the key. Healthy Porzingis. The big who spaces the court and protects the rim is the key. Just basketball sense he unlocks everything. That’s how he unlocked Tatum and Brown.

    so if you have Luka LeBron and Reaves and Knect With Porzingis that’s a lot of spacing. And defense at the rim.

    I know he had beef with Luka but let bigons be bigons.
     
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    Gabe has 6 years NBA experience. That count as a "veteran point guard"?

    Seriously though, if they're exploring deals involving those two then how married are they to Ellis? That's who I want from them, we can't give them the PG they want but we can get a 3rd team something from our heap.
     
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    Portlands the blue print. Boston gave Holiday and a second round for Simmons


    why should we have to give up are 2031 first round pick for Ayton? We can give a second round pick and Hachimura for Ayton.

    or We can get Porzingis. I think the blueprint for trade should be

    1. Ayton

    2. Porzingis.

    looks like Portland is open for business. And are ready to move their expirings.


    What does Kessler demand??? Knect 2031 1st round pick? Hachimura? Just seems steep.
     
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    simons isn't anything special. comes off as an empty stats guy

    blazers have one hell of a defensive team if holiday can stay healthy. unfortunately for them, they don't have anyone who can score
     
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    I wish there were teams that helped us like Blazers did for Boston. Sheesh they bailed them out twice. When we ask them for a trade, they want two first round picks and rui for Jerami grant!

    :ADeyeshift:

    As for Porzingis, he's so injury prone and who knows what he can do after he basically couldn't play after that long COVID/viral illness thing.

    I'd rather get Luke Kornet if we are looking at Boston bigs.
     
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    Small trade

    LAL: Devin Carter, Malik Monk

    UTA: Dalton Knecht

    SAC: 21st pick, Rui
     
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    If Bron was 10 years younger I'm considering it. In this case, absolutely not. In 2 years, our 2nd best player is Max or Rui. We can't think so short term
    I understand the sentiment but that was what was being told about Gafford or Hartenstein who were lost in bad teams/contexts. Now they're worth 20 and 30 mil. I think Goga is one of those cases, he balls out when given the minutes. It's a gamble nonetheless, it's true

    Knecht makes a lot of sense to Orlando. I like that one for both teams

    Even if we get a 2025 pick and our 2027 back, we still can't trade 2028 and 2030 because we don't have the 2029.

    One loophole I think we can exploit is to get swaps for the years we don't have picks. Not sure we can do those, but if so, it would free up the other years.


    Can anyone argue for Ayton? Why is he such a hot name in this topic? He makes a ton of money that forces us to send at least 3 players, with minimum 2 from the rotation. Assets we also need for more moves. For what exactly? He's a poor rim protector, which we need, and soft, when we already lack physicality. I don't get it

    On Porzingis, am I the only one who remembers him in Dallas with Luka? It didn't work. Again, why do we want to put all our assets into one guy? We need to add at least 2 depth players while improving other 2 from the rotation. Trading for any big salary is not the way
     
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    because portland hates us and keeps helping boston?

    came here to vent about this primarily. wtf is portland doing? it's not that simons is great. he's a more expensive dlo minus the passing. and that's...not fantastic. but have you seen the holiday contract? the whole league colluded to freeze us out on westbrook when he only had two years left on his deal! it's total b*******! 2 2nds.


    yeah, i'd prefer kornet, but i'm thinking boston will just re-sign him. because he's young-ish, i don't think he takes our tpmle, as someone will offer over that, and he needs to get as much money as possible while he's hot on the market.

    some team (maybe us) will take zinger from them to help them keep kornet, imo.

    he's become underrated, imo. and he should be able to be had without giving up a whole lot. well, if we were boston he would be.

    again, the move would be gabe/kleber/vando, i'd think.

    but yeah, zinger was a bad fit with luka once. now, he was cast as a 2nd guy instead of a 5th then, so that made a big difference...


    guessing he's been tossed into kessler discussions. the question is why--probably because utah wants a player from us? rui?
     
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    Yeah we aren’t getting Capela for 5 mil
     
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    For what it's worth, Irwin (last night's pod) still thinks the most likely outcome is we trade for a center AND sign one to be the ying to their yang stylistically. Thinks the most likely way we do that is Claxton and Lopez.

    I like that IF we have a plan to trade something else for a 2-way wing and/or have good Intel we're getting a FA vet min bargain at the position of need.
     
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