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I think Collins is better than Rui, but I'm not sure how much of an impact that change makes while LeBron is still around. If Luka and LeBron are both out there, I think that other forward is pretty much always going to be a spot-up shooter (which Rui is better at) or a roam-the-baseline cutter (which Collins is probably better at, as he's more explosive).

I think a Collins/Rui swap is more impactful if LeBron is gone. I think Collins is the type that's better when he's more directly involved in actions than when he's just standing in the corner.

 

I just don’t know who we are going to have to guard 3s. We have so many forwards that guard the 4 position

 

Collins is a 4/5. He sounds mostly play at the 5. Think of it as just turning Rui into a 5. Here is an example with Kessler included:

PF: James (34) DFS (14)
C: Kessler (24) Collins (24)

 

If you are talking about somebody in place of Rui to defend 3 then that's not a huge ask.

 

He put together the Championship team roster too.

 

Some of it .... mainly LeBron and
McGee plus the role players we had and kept following the trade that sent a bunch of the best young ones out for AD. Then he quit before that season was over and did his best to make it hard on Rob and the Lakers that summer to actually GET AD signed and have to scramble to plans B and C after Snake led us on. LOL you get pissed because I and others remember all this, but conversely you have him up on this pedestal doing things he didn't do.

 

there aren't a lot of sf types that we struggle with. the early iterations of the lebron teams struggled mightily with those, but honestly, not that many sfs can actually roast even lebron and luka in isolation--that is, anyone who is big and strong enough to bully reaves isn't quick enough to cause luka or lebron problems. our issues are containment on the smaller, quicker perimeter guys, for whom we have exactly zero guys right now. gabe was supposed to help but doesn't (ironically, he does better defending up one or two positions). the title team had caruso, kcp, and (in the regular season) bradley to do this. we have...bronny?

i want keon ellis or NAW, but that ain't happening. thybulle is next on my wishlist, and i'd settle even for 52years's smart idea if we solved center another way.

 

Make it hard on Rob how? New Orleans wasn't trading AD anywhere but LA man. He had all the leverage. Rob added Danny Green and Dwight, the rest of that team was already here.

 

The Pacers aren't going down without a fight.

 

Pacers up by 20.After Indiana will win the championship I think Turner would be available for trade

 

He did? I didn't realize that after quitting in April of 2019, later that offseason Magic managed to trade for AD and sign Danny Green, Dwight, Bradley, Dudley, and Morris. What a guy.

 

You have some foggy memory then I guess. The AD trade was already in motion. Bradley didn't make it to the Bubble and Morris was a buyout player. Yep Green and Dwight were signed by Pelinka.

This narrative that Rob did some kind of heavy lifting, in order to get AD, is some more revisionist BS. Rich Paul gift wrapped AD to the Lakers, after Lebron made that call on live TV in the locker room. AD's dad killed all that noise about how the C Bags had all those great assets that NO would prefer. We didn't have any competition for AD at all.

 

he did that by himself? no credit to pelinka?

 

Scaring off competition is also the work of a gm. We got AD for less than magic offered, btw. People forget that everything was on the table at the deadline. NO should have robbed him like everyone else did.

 

30 points blowout after 3 quarter.
New dynasty my a**

 

Not being able to complete a trade while offering more than what we ended up trading is not a flex. You accusing anyone of revisionist history is rich. Thanks for the laugh.

Bradley was a key player that helped the team get the #1 seed even if he wasn't in the bubble. Yes, Morris was a buyout who played 18mpg in the playoffs - thank you for helping make my point.

 

Pelinka doesn't get any of the blame.

 

Claiming that we offered up more, isn't some kind of flex either, why didn't NO take more then? That's another one of those BS anti Magic takes. Nothing stopped New Orleans, from taking this supposed better offer that Magic threw out.


Bradley was irrelevant to the Bubble, we won the Championship in Orlando. Yeah Kieff was a buyout, he played some, he wasn't some kind of key piece either.

Lebron, Caruso, Kuz, KCP, Javale, AD, Rondo, that's Magic

 

Don’t be dumb. The whole media s*** show he put on Rob specifically who HAD to get the deal done with an unhappy organization after Magic’s unsuccessful forced trade mid season …. and the whole free agency period. Rob was not to be trusted in the most slanderous term possible … back stabber and the organization his lifelong “close sister” Jeanie was running was a s*** show …. the Lakers. We were free game all spring and summer in the media. It’s where at the end assembling the final touches the “he’s scrambling” meme came from. The press just never let up that whole period. And Jeanie and Rob took the high road and said nothing and kept their heads down working. That was your idol butt hurt that Rob trying to get s*** done and couldn’t get the “timely” answers he needed … finally mentioned it in frustration. That was sabotage and willfully dragging the Lakers through the dirt. And it really WAS open season in the press on the organization because of Magic’s efforts with the burr up his butt. No class.

 

Meh..AD was coming period. What other
options did NO have seriously? The media narrative was that Ainge was a genius, and sitting on a grand war chest, that was really impossible, for the Pelicans to turn down. That s*** turned out to be false. So what are you really trying to say here? If Magic hadn't quit, the AD trade wasn't going to happen? BS

Jeanie is the one that sent Magic those emails, of Rob stabbing him in the back, so it was pretty clear, that Rob wasn't to be trusted. Yet he didn't quit over Rob, it was the head coaching hire fiasco, that also gave a glimpse of the s***show , we were running during that time.

That man gave his heart and soul to this organization, he was hurt, and angry, he had a meltdown and showed out. I forgive him just like Jeanie did, it didn't hurt one damn thing either.

Lol..wtf was Rob supposed to say? He knew what was in those emails he sent. He was prudent to keep his trap shut IMO.
Don't get twisted, Kareem was my idol. But yeah, I gotta a lot of love for the Magic man too.