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  1. showtime24

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    AR + Milton + remove protection on 27 pick for Kessler + Clarkson + #21
     
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    This.

    Utah ain’t fooling anybody


    Vando 2031 unprotected first round pick for John Collins


    I would do a bigger trade Reaves for Markanan


    I have no interest in Kessler. Trying to get us to trade for a need. Why I wanna trade Knect and my 2031 1st round pick unprotected.

    So Knect can turn into a 25 point a game scorer with Markanan.

    naw I’m good. F Utah!!!!!!!!


    Let’s sign Lopez I’ll take him at 37 super skilled sign Clint Capela and we good.

    and Ben Simmons. That’s fine. We don’t need to have anything crazy.
     
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    All that for 11 and 12?
     
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    not moving reaves for kessler, whom i think has become overrated. i honestly have never understood why ainge would be open to trading him at all, and this makes me wary, too. utah can easily afford to just pay him his value and move him later if they don't want him. long-term, i'm not sure kessler is ever going to be as valuable as reaves is now. he might be, as defensive anchors are important, but i'm just not sure he's a real game changer there. i'm also concerned that he hasn't really progressed (one could argue he's backslid a bit?) since his rookie year. as his minutes went up, his counting stats went up, but his advanced metrics are lower as are his games played.

    but my biggest issue is that once again i believe we need 7-8 playable playoff guys, and moving 1 for 1 doesn't help us there.


    as kobenluka's post suggests, i'd rather just add capela or lopez (i don't think we can get both, but i think 1 is totally plausible) for nothing in free agency. if healthy, both guys are playable in the playoffs. we'd likely still close games small. and this frees up our trade assets to get a POA defender.


    i'd be open to moving the mark williams package for kessler, though, as they're comparable players, with kessler having fewer injury red flags and thus maybe justifying a bit more going out.

    moving on from knecht this early does suck--as it's not like the guy who lit it up a couple times isn't in there ready to do that more often in a bigger role--but our coach thought he was unplayable in the playoffs, and our gm literally already traded him once, so i think that writing is just on the wall.
     
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    I think you keep Reaves unless you’re getting a borderline allstar center. Reaves value comes a lot from how much his contract is, it’s incredible value given his productivity and impact. By keeping Reaves, it makes it easier to build a team and manage the teams cap that way.

    That being said, there have been reports this past week that imply the Pistons are looking to sign a center and would look at Myles Turner and Naz Reid. I think Turner stays in Indiana but if Detroit gets Reid, it can make Jalen Duran become in play for the Knect and future 1st package.

    I would also really like for the Lakers to consider Kel’El Ware from Miami as well for the same Knect trade package. Ware is also exactly the type of center the Lakers are looking for. Rim protection and lob threat, and finished on the all rookie 2nd team.
     
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    That's the activity I'm rooting for: I've become a big Dee-troooit baaasssketball fan in the past couple weeks, really pulling for them to get their FA.

    Knecht also fills a need for them because they're going to have to make some hard choices with their FAs and DK can be a poor man's replacement for Beasley.
     
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    Apparently the Kings are "motivated" to find a long-term solution at PG, which is hilarious after trading Fox and Haliburton. I wonder if that means Keon Ellis is available? Like I think Abeer said, the Kings sent him to be their representative at the draft so that probably means they think he's sticking around.

    I thought about Reaves for Ellis and Murray. Murray is more versatile defensively than Rui. I kind of like the idea of a LeBron/Rui/Murray rotation at the forward spots. DFS would then become a trade piece. But I don't see it happening. We'd go back to needing another guard that can handle the ball because that's really not Ellis' game.
     
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    Windhorst said Durant trade coming soon? Where’s that spurs Minnesota?
     
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    I like that sac Reaves Ellis Murray trade.

    if you can get Keegan Murray he would be the perfect player on the Lakers next to Luka.

    it’s got nothing to do with the player Knect or Murray. If you trade Reaves. I’m okay with it as long as we have the right player next to Luka.

    three point shooters like Murray do that. He’s a set three point shooter like Klay Thompson.
     
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    Kessler is good but I put him in Mark Williams territory. I really want to know why the Lakers turned that trade down.? It cost us a championship.

    I really like How skilled Mark Williams is. Pau Gasol level on some tape. Some games you look at him.

    They say the health. There was an injury red flag. Charlotte said he was good. I thought we were fleacing them. And yall know how I value Knect.

    I think Williams is better offensively than Ayton. He does more.

    and perfect for Luka.

    I’m not calling Cap I see no better than him out there.

    Claxton nope

    Kessler nope

    Gafford nope

    Allen Yes but come on do we really have a shot?

    Ayton nope

    Williams nope
     
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    WUT!?

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    Sorry Bud with that take you >>

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    Lowe said on his pod yesterday that he thinks the Clippers will get involved in the KD pursuit. They can trade their 2031 pick, which is pretty juice considering Kawhi and Harden will probably be gone and they'll probably be in the wilderness. Regardless, he thinks the Clippers are going to take big swings.

    If Derrick Jones Jr. goes out in a trade I'd love to try and have him re-routed here.
     
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    First of all I never compared Mark Williams to Pau Gasol.

    I said on some tape you could see Pau Gasol skill level in Mark Williams.

    footwork. He is an exceptional offensive player. He’s had games of 27 and 15 rebounds 27 points.


    No comp. I could say Greg Monroe has had those Pau Gasol games. I’m talking about his look on tape. How he’s played in some games.

    I did the same thing when Shai was a rookie I saw some Kobe Bryant on tape.
     
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    The Clippers can trade all they want. They still traded Shai and wait for it 6 first round picks for Paul George.
     
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    These were Mark Williams stats in one stretch last season.

    23 points 14 rebounds

    20 points 15 rebounds

    26 points 16 rebounds.

    those are Pau Gasol stats. Just showing the guy can consistently put up effective stats.

    his height 7,0” 240

    Pau Gasol 7,0” 240


    Mark Williams in his third season averaged 15 points 12 rebounds 60% from the field 80% from the line.

    he’s improved every season.

    Pau Gasol for his career was about 22 points 12 rebounds.

    Mark Williams did that playing with shoot first ball dominant point guard Lamelo Ball.

    and Based on what I saw out of Mark Williams it was stupid and foolish to turn that trade down. Somebody did. Lebron wasn’t happy about it. The guy would’ve been a force and helped us.

    as stated when I saw the trade Knect and the pick for it. I was extremely excited. I said there’s a championship legit shot at a championship. Mark Williams is gonna make teams have to defend him and choose between him and Luka legit Lob threat. Choose between him Luka and Lebron.

    I love his game. Him on the Lakers he would be a star. Walker Kessler garbage compared to Mark Williams. I don’t like a Center like Kessler who’s a horrible free throw shooter.

    like Gasol such a great free throw shooter is Williams just like Davis.


    When you look at Williams you’ll see. The guy is a stud. We got over on Charlotte because they were trying to tank.
     
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    Thanks for explaining. Just messing with you above for what seemed like a way out of left field comment. :)
     
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    I really do not understand what the Lakers were doing turning this trade down.

    the kid has great big hands. The kid has great touch around the rim. He finishes high percentage. When we talk Lob threat. He just cleans up around the rim.

    Like he does everything the Lakers need. He’s 23 years old. He is the ideal center for Luka.

    You just trade your franchise Center Anthony Davis and you get Mark Williams coming back. What are you thinking???


    Like Silver like saying let me warm up the championship trophy here ya go.!!!! Like what the F!!!!

    who turned that trade down??? Couldn’t have been Rob. And the medical looked like fine. Someone keeps saying the kid had a bad medical.


    You get Mark Williams and you got Luka. You still got Lebron Hachimura Reaves. Like I have no clue.


    But the Lakers seriously need to revisit this trade in the off season let by gons be by gons. Knect for Mark Williams and the 2031 unprotected 1st round pick. This is the most important acquisition for me.

    do right. Then you’re not having to give up your major core. Replace the shooter bring in Tim Hardaway jr. Or draft one.

    but damn when you look at the finals we could made some noise if we made this trade.
     
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    How do you know the medicals looked fine? Did you see them?
     
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    no, he didn't, he speaks stuff into existence, LaVar style ;).
     

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