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  1. abeer3

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    agree with all this, despite my grumblings about the trade being rescinded. you have to trust your medical guys, else why have them? and to pull out like that, it can't have been a trifle. and it is unlikely williams turns that series. quite possible he's sitting next to hayes with DFS and rui at center anyway.

    btw, this is why i've been on the capela train. he has years of experience playing with luka types (harden, young), is a vet who knows how to play, and probably can be had with our assets one way or another (tpmle with promise of starting spot, S&T if we can convince lebron he's worth taking a cut).

    capela's a short-term solution, but i think if we want to contend next year, it's a good option that also keeps the powder dry for other moves (knecht, 1st, at least one expiring stays here in any case).
     
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    btw, svtzr (i think accidentally) planted a weird seed in my brain. on his list of available centers, he had john collins. and i'd kind of dismissed him after rui improved this year and we moved dlo for DFS, but i could see jj finding ways to use him, perhaps even heavily.

    dream scenario would be something involving both him and kessler, but it's tricky due to collins's salary. inclusion of vando would mean emptying the asset chamber while still not having a quick wing defender.

    but gabe/kleber/shake gets collins salary wise but doesn't include anything really useful for utah to facilitate. they'd have to just want to do collins a favor, which isn't impossible.
     
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    final FA spam for a bit. i was encouraged to see the stats liked three of my targets:

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    williams, reed, goga are all gettable, imo.
     
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    Young, dumb and full of...inexperience.

    They don't know what they don't know and that's why they didn't really scare me as a potential matchup.
     
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    He already said that he wanted to see all the Euro guys, in the big markets, after the Luka trade.

    Brooklyn has a lot of picks and cap space.
     
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    lol, watch the bucks call looking for the giannis/luka swap dallas inquired about. slick says yes, i say *click*

    any heat offer has to start with adebayo, right? i'm sure riley will try to give them rozier and three smacks to the mouth, but he's been striking out with that approach for a while now.

    nets could move claxton for him and just build an entire new squad with the space i guess?

    knicks could move towns?

    clips would have to be leonard lol.

    i don't see how we really get involved other than hopefully skimming off portis or lopez or something.
     
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    Giannis >Luka too. Top 6 is still Championship caliber though!.

    I belive the Bucks would rather have KAT, over the Hyena.
     
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    I actually think we could be competitive here. If the list turns out to be us, the Clips, the Knicks, the Nets and Miami (which that tweet far from confirms), I think Austin/Rui/Dalton/whatever expirings to match salary/picks actually stacks up against what those other teams can trade. The key is that the Bucks don't have their own picks, so they're not really going to tank. They'll probably want one or two good young players they can point to as legitimate pieces coming back, as well some draft capital.

    The Clips have no draft capital and really no interesting young-ish players besides Zu. I can't see a real path to them being a serious player for Giannis. The Knicks I think would be in the driver's seat among this list of teams because they have good players they can trade (some combination of KAT/OG/Bridges) plus I think more tradeable draft capital than us. The Nets easily have the most draft capital, but they don't really have the players the Bucks can point to and say these guys can help keep us competitive. They have a bunch of role players. And then Miami would have to put in at least one of Bam or Herro, but at that point even with Giannis they're not close to contending.

    If the list truly was us/Clips/Knicks/Nets/Miami, and the Bucks decide they are only going to send Giannis to one of those teams...maybe I'm an insane homer but I actually think we'd have a shot.
     
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    yeah maybe...

    i just don't see it.

    i will say that i looked at the nets picks and...they're not great? they've got some very complicated top-8 protected picks from philly, a least favorable amongst three teams, etc.

    they also have three firsts this year, all late, some of which they'll probably have to give away.
     
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    It's a longshot and premised entirely on the Bucks deciding they owe Giannis for their best stretch in 40 years and cutting teams like Houston completely out of the process. Which would not be a smart thing to do. But if they did choose that path, these other teams don't have awesome packages ready to go. But among the big market teams the Knicks make the most sense to me. They can send Anunoby and Bridges, two rock solid players still in their 20s that could return even more assets kind of like what the Blazers did taking back Holiday and then trading him, plus 2-3 tradeable firsts I think.
     
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    We don't necessarily need Giannis. Just a big who Reddick trust to be in the game and catch lobs, rebound, etc. There are a bunch of those guys in the league, we should be able to land at least one.
     
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    i'd love it if giannis stayed east. if we can capitalize a la holiday to boston off one of these moves, i would also like that. we don't need more home runs, i agree. we hit the big one. we need another couple hits.
     
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    I like this idea a lot. Ainge needs to feel that he really fleeced us though. Probably something like AR, Knecht, Rui, 2027 protection removed, 2028 swap, 2030 swap, 2031 2st or soemthing like that. Ainge might be fuming after we tricked him into helping us get Luka lol.
     
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    I agree. No "home runs" are necessary. We need a legitimate big and an athletic SF - a true SF - who can contribute on a consistent basis. Fit and chemistry are everything. Small, but reliable rotation is the key for success. We have some assets to make this happen.
     
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    NVM that's too much.
     
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    I would only due this if Utah makes it a condition of getting Kessler and/or Lakers have another trade lined up as you basically have 4 PF's in DFS, Collins, Lebron, Rui. Theoritically it could create a wonderful switchable lineup with the ability to stretch the floor but none of those have quick feet anymore to guard on the perimeter.
     
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    My ideal off-season would be Kessler, herb Jones, and Shroeder/DDV type and saying bye to Vincent, Shake, Knect - need an quicker guard IMO who can take bigs off the dribble rather than the real slow plodding work Luka/Lebron/AR does. I think you also need another roleplayer other than Rui who you can get you to 15-20 pts in a playoff game.
     
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    Getting Giannis would be a Lakers type move though. It is what it is. I'm already resigned to the fact that we will go for him. Reaves + Knecht + Rui + Kleber + 2031 1st, 2026 swap, 2028 swap, 2030 swap?
     
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