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And i think that too can be addressed for a fraction of the price -- Jevon Carter gets you there (he has a PO, stay and rot behind Pedo Giddey or bolt and try to recover some career value) . Fultz maybe... need to see how the rest of the season goes for him. Or DS Jr reunion with Luka can address that need.

 

those guys are all worse spot up shooters than gabe, though. there's a reason we spent the mle on him, and it wasn't just "stupid rob", imo.

 

Definitely but the scenario in which he's dealt is to significantly improve the front court. Gotta give to get. There's a reason they cost what they cost vs Gabe cost what he cost. On an asset to contribution ratio based on what we have to shop (where there's real money attached) , Kleber followed by Gabe are the least valuable players. To me, a top 14 center > Gabe's contribution and you Bandaid the loss the best you can. I think that overall gain greatly outweighs what's going out.

 

I'd be trying to put Vando in a trade over Gabe tbh, but I know his contract is less appealing.

 

Pincus was on Irwin's pod today



Lakers have currently $900k-ish to play with.

-Goodwin prorated on 3/11: $408k if it's for the rest of the year. $422k this year if it's on a multi year deal. Usually these conversions are done with at least a second non/partial guarantee.

-Jemison prorated is $364k for the rest of the year, $408k this year if it's a 2+ year deal.


- the value of Shake's non-guarantee for trade purposes and how you can adjust that amount anywhere from $1 to the full annual value of $3m. So if you need to match to the dollar in a trade, that's valuable.

A lot of other cap stuff, in particular about the new CBA but those were the most pressing items for us.




Also on Irwin's pod two days ago and he reiterated it yesterday. Cam is gone the second one of the two way deadlines hit. From within the team, he's heard that Cam is first out. And that makes sense based on how far under the dog house JJ has him buried.

 

I absolutely love Vando. He is an ideal regular season player and what he gives us is unique in probably the whole NBA. But there's 3 worries with him: health, being exposed against better teams/playoffs and shooting. I'm not advocating shipping him for whoever, but he's in the top3 list for guys I'm willing to trade to improve the team (that hold any value), ahead of Rui, behind Kleber and a tough call with Gabe.

I don't think I agree with you on this one. I think Gabe's role is quite important in the team, because Luka or AR are constantly hunted on defense and he helps offset that when he's out there. I agree Goodwin can replace Gabe but then we would need another Goodwin

I'm only trading Gabe if it's to upgrade him or in case we really get another version of him on someone cheaper, who can guard, shoot and dribble some

 

So for this uber specific scenario, it boils down to: would you trade Gabe for a top 10 center? I'd do that 100/100 times and ask if it was Nico on the other line. Cause that's what Claxton is with Luka, that's the bump he gets.

I didn't anticipate that being a hot take. Yes, we can't enter next season without a POA defender. I'm just not wanting to spend $11m on a 6'2" (that's generous) one IF we can better allocate those funds to improve the starting group. The replacement will likely be worse at something if the replacement is from the TPMLE or vet min pool... unless you steal someone left in the cold because they're not longer a $10m+ player in this CBA. We're a team that agents will find those situations more attractive with Luka on board (just see the 3pt% bump the other starters have with Luka on the floor) . OR you call up the tank teams like Portland and see what's the ask on Camara ($2.2m). If Sabonis is traded this summer and Kings don't want to pay Ellis on his next deal (only $2.3m next year) when they're rebuilding (like how Nico didn't want to pay Grimes), you look into that. With the cap squeeze, you can find situations like that. Just have to be opportunistic. Not sure either are all that realistic but that's how I'm more interested in slicing the pie.

 

1. i'm not sure that claxton, in particular, is even available.
2. as such, i think you're overestimating the centers that will likely be available to us.
3. we value gabe differently. and keep in mind that to turn gabe into a claxton, other stuff is going out the door that will make replacing gabe difficult.
4. hayes has been quietly pretty good this year, and it may be easier to find another hayes on the scrapheap than to trade for a center who might be substantially better AND fit our current scheme.

in all, i'd rather see what kleber's expiring + shake can get us and maybe just live with whatever that yields (maybe a second hayes-level center).

with the other thoughts, i'll say two more things:

1. i've read that camara might be the least touchable guy on portland.
2. relatedly, not all gms are nico (lol), and i'd argue most teams are actually overpaying role players even while rebuilding these days, hoping they'll be able to trade them later. the teams to look at in terms of letting potential rotation players walk over money would be your small market playoff teams who are paying tax (denver's basically lost one a year since the title).

 

Mark, the dead guy...

 

yeah, they're still sitting him some, but man i was excited about that pick up. very curious to see if our medical staff was right or once again very wrong (but in the opposite direction).

 

My money is on "buyers remorse", maybe not Dalton but the pick got Rob pause for another second. There might be a deal in the summer that Rob is thinking about and that pick is/was crucial. So far, it doesn't look good (for the Lakers) and our so called "doctors", no way they were wrong... right