2024-25 Team Developments: Trades / Free Agents / News / Rumors / Ideas

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by TIME, May 22, 2024.

  1. KuzmoBall17

    KuzmoBall17 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2017
    Messages:
    3,354
    Likes Received:
    5,686
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    No way.
    Robbert Williams is street clothes in cube
     
  2. Panko

    Panko - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2021
    Messages:
    723
    Likes Received:
    2,421
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Yeah, the only thing sourced is Goldsberry saying "one of my sources inside the Lakers indicating that the deal was bigger." Everything else is Goldsberry speculating.

    The "Knecht and 2 firsts" part is him referencing Simmons joking about it, and then the redditor says it's real, but that never came from the source. Same for Rob's sweet-talking, that's just Goldsberry saying "he thinks" Rob did that. So Goldsberry's source might be someone in Rob's camp, but they never actually said any of that.

     
    TIME and abeer3 like this.
  3. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,813
    Likes Received:
    77,671
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    yeah, maybe we tried to get gafford and knecht and a 1st would have been part of it or something. no way it just...shrunk on one side, imo.
     
    Panko and TIME like this.
  4. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,965
    Likes Received:
    61,445
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Re: Butler ^^^
    He can just opt in and be an a-hole and Miami still has to pay him 50M though … right?
     
    sirronstuff and Panko like this.
  5. KobeJeterKaep

    KobeJeterKaep - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2014
    Messages:
    750
    Likes Received:
    1,301
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Buffalo
    Offline
    Beyond hilarious!!!

    get in line…pa pah!! Go paint your hairline!!!!

    Wow!!!
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  6. Panko

    Panko - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2021
    Messages:
    723
    Likes Received:
    2,421
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline



    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/61...ncic-nba-trade-negotiations-lakers-mavericks/

    Rumor is that Dallas tried to get Giannis first, and Milwaukee said no.

    Luka, Reaves, Knecht, Vando, and GIANNIS in 2027, here we come!!!
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2025 at 2:34 PM
  7. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    9,036
    Likes Received:
    7,880
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Or Jokic. I would have said no too, in both cases.
     
    lakerjones likes this.
  8. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,727
    Likes Received:
    7,373
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Trading top 5 players is just not done for a reason. They’re all close to winning a championship any year they get a bit of luck and health. If you trade your golden goose for another and your old flame goes on to win a championship and your new franchise player gets injured - you’ll get crucified.

    It’s part of what makes the AD for Luka trade so unbelievable.
     
    LTLakerFan, Panko and Cookie like this.
  9. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,672
    Likes Received:
    72,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    Rui + 1 first, makes sense but I'd be shocked if either Vando or DFS are moved. Your shiny new toy might riot if you trade DFS as soon as he gets there.



    I don't think we have the assets to get Kessler or Turner. I think Claxton is best case and I'd be willing to give up a 1st for him, he also fits nicely on the Luka timeline. Capela would be my consolation prize, but would they do it for just one 2nd?
     
  10. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    9,036
    Likes Received:
    7,880
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Welp..Rui,Gabe and the new Max guy, are a collective 39M in salary matching. So just about any player, on the trading block is still obtainable. To keep it a buck, besides Zion, who is really worth more than what we have left to offer? A FRP, a 2nd and a couple of pick swaps.
     
  11. VincePT

    VincePT - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,082
    Likes Received:
    2,152
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Diego
    Online
    I'd be happy with Claxton, still has upside, and is cost controlled for a good few years.

    I think Brooklyn may ask for Austin though, and that's a big decision right there.
     
  12. sk2408

    sk2408 - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2022
    Messages:
    1,127
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I think I heard on one of the many pods I've listened to the last few days that Kleber can't be aggregated with other salaries in a trade. We can re-route him somewhere before the deadline, but as a standalone contract.
     
    JSM likes this.
  13. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    9,036
    Likes Received:
    7,880
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Why? He's not on a vet minimum. He makes 11M this season and next.

    Where is Abeer and Svtzr on this? Those are my two CBA experts.

    :Kobe Shrug:
     
  14. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,672
    Likes Received:
    72,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'd hang up at that point. If they're willing to do Claxton and Sharpe then I'd be open to something like:
    Rui, Gabe, DK, one first, one swap, one 2nd for Claxton and Sharpe.

    Then you go get Fultz or if a better vet hits the buyout market.

    Claxton/Sharpe/Jax
    Bron/Vando/Maxi
    DFS/Reddish
    Austin/Shake
    Luka/Bronny

    Claxton and DFS allows you to get away with the defensive shortcomings that exist in that group. That's a contending 5, but you're thin...that's a 7 man playoff rotation so you REALLY need to hit on a buyout guy. (Maxi factors in if he can get healthy)
     
    Panko and VincePT like this.
  15. VincePT

    VincePT - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,082
    Likes Received:
    2,152
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    San Diego
    Online
    Maxi is actually way better than Hayes when he can play so I think he'll stay as a backup stretch big
     
    FrontOfJersey22 likes this.
  16. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,672
    Likes Received:
    72,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Has nothing to do with salary. Has to do with acquiring and trading someone you just landed. You can trade them along with draft picks, but not with another player.
     
  17. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    9,036
    Likes Received:
    7,880
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Online
    Aha..so basically Finney-Smith couldn't be packaged with another player either? Ok

    So basically you have to reroute these guys immediately? And that's only with a draft pick?
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  18. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,965
    Likes Received:
    61,445
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Somebody please help me out .... is Claxton better at holding off guys 60-70 lbs heavier in the key than our other guys in that same weight range? Or is he just so good defending the rim, and out on the perimeter/or whatever else it is he's good at that it all comes out on the plus side of the scale even though he gets overpowered too?
     
  19. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,692
    Likes Received:
    28,151
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    ^

    No. He is better at defending the perimeter actually, and can roll to the basket and finish quite well. He is not going to push anyone around, he's a twig. A mobile twig for sure, but a twig nonetheless. He is a good rim protector, can block shots, will switch on wings easily and do well, but can't shoot, like, at all.
     
    abeer3, Slick2021 and LTLakerFan like this.
  20. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,672
    Likes Received:
    72,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    No, we'll get outmuscled. But with AD out and Luka in, the big search shifts from muscle to lob threat, good hands, shot blocker, switchy (or some combo of those things).

    Jax will look better with Luka, but Jax has a crawlspace level ceiling. He's a 3rd string center who will look like meh 2nd string. Claxton is a 10/10/2 guy in 30 minutes a night and that's been with the atrocity that is the Brooklyn Nets. Pair him with Bron, Luka and AR he could easily get 15 points a night just from lobs and being ignored due to the other threats on the floor.

    Two seasons ago he finished 9th in DPOY race.
     

Share This Page