2024-25 Team Developments: Trades / Free Agents / News / Rumors / Ideas

Today I thought in the AR for Turner/Nembhardt too! It would be great for us, but not sure if it's what Indiana is looking for, no one knows exactly anyway

Those would be great deals for us. Cam fits a ton of teams, including the Spurs. I would be very surprised if he stays in Brooklyn this deadline

 

Rui, Gabe and Knecht is the best package I'm offering up period. You can't add these vet minimum guys to any trade. That's 32M in salary and a FRP, and I'm selling Knecht as a FRP equivalent.

 

Like others, I've been a little nervous about the "what does Dallas know about Luka that we don't" train of thought re: why would they trade him? But after looking into it more, I'm now convinced that their GM is just an idiot, by his own words and actions. He's the guy who botched the Steph Curry presentation* and lost him from Nike, the guy who lost Brunson for nothing, and now the guy who traded away Luka because he's only thinking 3-4 years ahead and not 10. What a clown.





*The botch details are worse than I thought: it wasn't just a bad pitch, he called him Seth, used a presentation made for Durant, didn't offer him a signature shoe, and wouldn't match a $4 million offer from Under Armour. Lol.

 

Nico was a genius when he got the Mavs help for cheap to reach the Finals lol this trade is shocking but not necessarily unfair

 

GS desperate


Fischer just wrote a new article and said their pie in the sky attempt is to get Bron... AND KD

I s*** you not.

 

Saw a tweet about us going for Claxton AND Sharpe. That would be ideal IMO. We have Claxton as the primary center who can roll to the rim, defend the rim and also do some switching, and then we have the bigger body in Sharpe to deal with certain matchups.

 

I’m certain that someone is feeding Jake Fischer nonsense just for fun and he’s lapping it up. The Warriors FO definitely knows it is actually impossible to trade for LeBron and KD. Fischer is a pawn that people feed “news” to for s**** and giggles.

 

A broken clock is right twice a day, and bad GM's can make moves for role players that work out. But this is a stunningly bad trade at the highest levels. And that's not a knock on AD, I think AD is great, a top 10, borderline top 5 player. Let's even say for a moment that Luka and AD are equal. The 6 year age difference is ENORMOUS. Think about just how valuable 6 years of a top 5 player are. For people who prefer AD over Luka, think about how much we would give up, for AD to be 6 years younger. Would we give up more than Christie and just one middling-to-low frp, to get 6 more years of AD in his prime? That's over half of a player's prime! And yet...Nico Harrison is not thinking about that AT ALL. By his own words, he does not value the next 10 years, just the next 3-4. There are other quotes of his that are bad, but that one is the kicker to me. This is not judging him by whether his moves work out or not, this is judging him by his thought process and his own words that indicate idiocy.

 

wouldn't mind claxton at all

mitch rob is a hard no for me

 

A gassed up Luka Doncic is going to be the most MUST SEE TV. No way, with how competitive he is, he isn't going to get heated for this. Please Rob, get the Lakers a big who can play defense and rebound and let's see what Luka and Lebron can cook up.

 

It's so insane that I just can't believe there wasn't more going on here. I think the Mavs had to be certain that Luka was going to demand out as early as this summer, and that if he got wind that they were shopping him around he would start exerting leverage to get him somewhere specific.

 

[Goldsberry] The Luka Dončić deal originally included multiple first-round picks, Dalton Knecht, and more, but was chiseled down after Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison that taking on Luka Dončić was a big risk due to his weight and injury history.
Goldsberry also says that Rob Pelinka was able to convince Nico Harrison not to shop Luka Dončić and convince him that the Lakers were the only real suitor that could give the Mavericks the best player to “win-now” so he shouldn’t bother to negotiate with other teams.


I think Nico got played hard. Gotta give it to Rob here, this is almost Jerry West level stuff, if we win multiple titles with Luka, it will certainly go down as one of the greatest trades in Lakers history.

 

i agree that this trade is just incredibly hard to explain, but some of harrison's statements were just poorly phrased. for example, everyone running with the 3-4 year period stuff--i actually agree with him. ten year plans are stupid. great chance none of the players and many of the managers and coaches won't be around the team in 10 years. teams that talk like that are usually losers trying to sell the fans and media on some distant dynasty to explain their current suckiness.

it's obvious he just didn't see luka as the guy who would win a ring in the next few years. i think he's wrong. pretty much everyone thinks he's wrong. but that's his right in his role (as luka's dad said).

the problem was not seeking other offers, imo. on the other hand, the second luka hears he might be moved, he can insert himself into the negotiations like many stars have, and that usually ends up very bad for the team trading the star player.

like, everyone's thrashing dallas for their doncic return, but did sac do any better for fox? they didn't get the spurs' top picks nor any top prospects! instead, they got lavine--whom chicago couldn't give away 5 months ago! three firsts, one of which is fake (charlotte's is going to be 2nds), and only one of which has a chance of being high (minny 2031). this isn't luka, but it's an all-nba player in his prime.

anyway, yes, it's a bad move. but if you're looking for on-court value in return for a star, AD and max is near the top of what you could possibly get. every single team would hold their top prospect out of any deal, like they do in every superstar trade. if it goes really poorly this year in dallas, they can turn around and trade AD for the 4 first rounders everyone thought they should be getting this time.

i just keep going back to the fact that not all gms are looking for the same things in trades. harrison wanted an impact, win-now player for the one he was losing instead of a bunch of magic beans. now, why you'd even consider moving luka (or not paying the supermax)...no idea. i'm lost there.

 

yeah, this is something i didn't mention above, but there's a reason i put luka as the guy i thought we could get, and it just seemed to me like he'd consider leaving. dallas didn't want to end up like portland with a supermax guy who demands out shortly after signing (this has happened a bunch, and the nba needs to fix it).

this doesn't sound real to me. like i could believe that max replace knecht and a pick or something like that, but rob just sweet-talked him down with no other serious bids in? this is like the opposite of the anti-rob stuff (where everyone claims he's doing completely asinine things that nobody would do).

 

agree with all of this. I've said it elsewhere, but to all the pundits crying about not getting multiple 1sts or pick swaps -- those have little no value when they're coming from a team led by Luka for the next decade. They conveniently ignore that if things don't work out for Dallas this year, you go get 3-4 1sts for AD in the summer. If OKC doesn't win it all this year (and even if they do), do people think they wouldn't happily give up 4 of their 20-something 1sts to get AD?

Felt like I was taking crazy pills seeing people predictably, but wrongly argue that Sac got a better return for Fox. 30 out of 30 teams will take AD, Christie, and 1st over Lavine, 2 1sts, and 4 2nds.

 

excellent point. if dallas fired their gm today, and sac called and offered that deal tomorrow, the new gm would tell them to kick rocks.

 

Robert Williams/Thybule for Rui/Gabe? Yay or nay?

 

Bradley Beale doesn't want to move his family again and plans to stay in Phoenix
Bradley Beale will block almost any trade
According to insider Jake Fisher, Suns guard will use the veto in almost any case.
So Butler will end his career. LOL