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  1. ElginTheGreat

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    *I think the aggregator cut this one off. I’ll try to get the rest.
     
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    if turner was available for that, it would be done already, imo.
     
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    Definitely agree.
     
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    "
    Recent transaction:

    • Traded D'Angelo Russell, Maxwell Lewis and three second-round picks (2027, 2030, 2031) to Brooklyn for Dorian Finney-Smith and Shake Milton
    Keep an eye on: First-round picks and Christian Wood

    The addition of Finney-Smith accomplished two goals off the court. It gave the team more flexibility below the second apron, and, more importantly, it preserved its first-round picks (2029 and 2031) that are available to trade. The Lakers can also swap first-round picks in five different years.

    A two-step process is next. The first should be opening a roster spot. That could come at the expense of Wood, who was signed to a two-year veteran minimum contract last season but hasn't played since last February. The Lakers would save $11 million toward the luxury tax if Wood were traded and have $6.5 million in room below the second apron.

    The second is for GM Rob Pelinka to determine if the return of Jarred Vanderbilt plugs a hole in the frontcourt, or if there's a center they can acquire. The Lakers are allowing the third-most points in the paint and the fifth-most second-chance points.

    In an interview with ESPN's Shams Charania, Anthony Davis stressed that the Lakers need another big. "I feel like I've always been at my best when I've been the 4, having a big out there."

    Davis has played 96% of his minutes at center this season. In the title-winning 2019-20 season, he played 40% of his minutes at center.

    Before the season, Pelinka made it clear that their first-round picks were in play.

    "We would do a trade with both picks if that would lead to sustained Lakers excellence," Pelinka said. "We would also use one pick to make a marginal upgrade if we felt like it was the right thing to do."

    Vanderbilt, Gabe Vincent and Rui Hachimura have salaries between $10.7 million to $17 million. Vanderbilt is owed $37 million after this season, and Vincent and Hachimura are under contract through 2025-26.

    One trade that works

    Los Angeles Lakers receive:
    Myles Turner

    Indiana receives:
    Rui Hachimura
    2029 top-5 protected first

    Toronto receives:
    Jalen Hood-Schifino
    2029 second from Portland

    There is certainly a risk-reward with acquiring Turner. The risk comes with the Lakers having one future first-round pick to trade. Turner is also a pending free agent and could leave this summer. (The Lakers can sign Turner and exceed the cap in the offseason.) But the reward is Turner can complement Davis. Turner is shooting a career-high 39.3% from 3 and averaging almost two blocks per game.

    Top draft assets to use in trades:

    • 2029 and 2031 unprotected firsts
    Other notable draft assets:

    • The right to swap first-round picks in 2026, 2028, 2029, 2030 and 2031

    • Two future seconds
    Other notes:

    • LeBron James has a no trade clause"
     
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    yeah, the turner rumors excite me, but i just can't believe pritchard would deal with us in good faith.
     
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    The Myles Turner situation is a peculiar story. Here is a guy that the Pacers supposedly loves and want to keep but they never seem to want to pay him. He keeps getting these moderate salaries on short extensions. So he seems to always be on an expiring deal every other year.

    On the other side, he's considered to be a highly coveted player league-wide every time his name comes up in trade talks. Yet nobody ever steps up to the plate and offer up FRP for him. Even us, while it's almost considered to be a fact, around here, that we pulled out of a negotiation with the Pacers, when they wanted 2 FRP for Turner and Hield. Yet the Pacers said we never actually offered any picks for Turner, and the negotiations never progressed to discussing draft picks period. I've never seen where anyone offered FRP for Myles, and Indiana declined. It's just a weird thing.

    Make a damn offer, and make them refuse it, that's what I'd do.
     
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    Yeah. Don’t get me wrong, I won’t believe it until I see it.

    just throwing these out there for discussion
     
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    reading between the lines here says that maybe it never got that far because indy was already asking for players we didn't want to move (i.e., reaves)? that's granting that any of that reporting was really factual, when most of is sounded very speculative at the time (sources believe that if the lakers offered both picks, they could get it done). my guess at the time was that a lot of the "sources" in the deal were just other reporters.

    i'm also skeptical that indy has ever really wanted to move turner that badly. the fact that they keep re-upping him sort of says otherwise, right?

    i still think that if he's available, it's because they want to upgrade, not obtain future picks. and again, not sure he's even really that available anyway.
     
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    They keep re-upping him at a discounted rate tho . I'd never trade him either, if he kept accepting the deal offered. Perhaps he needs a new agent?

    There was some real tension there though, a couple of seasons ago. He wanted more money, they were stonewalling, and he was in interviews talking about whatever happens, happens, and he wasn't going to say that the Lakers, should give up a FRP for him, and that should be up to the Lakers to decide. That's the closet I've ever seen of him ,signaling that he was open to being moved.

    Then of course the Pacers used that 20M they had available that they had to use or lose,to give him. Then they signed him to another short term deal, which is why he's unrestricted this summer! Lol

    Edit...let's not forget that the Pacers signed Ayton to a 4 year 133M offer sheet, while they had Turner! Yet for some reason, they're reluctant to pay him more than 20M per? Rich Paul should try and steal him, from whoever is currently representing him IMO.
     
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    Turner to LA would be a full circle moment kinda similar to DFS finally being traded here...

    We've coveted him for years...it's time to finally bring him here and I think most teams aren't going to give up a FRP for an unrestricted FA.

    Turner / AD frontcourt man....nobody scoring on us
     
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    Is he ready to trade ? He was just fine yesterday
    Bulls head coach Billy Donovan said after Monday's 129-121 win over the Nuggets that LaVine is expected to miss the team's entire three-game road trip that begins Wednesday in Boston while he tends to a personal matter, Julia Poe of the Chicago Tribune reports.
     
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    Remind me why Pritchard hates the Lakers? Different conferences, only met once in the Finals. My memory isn't serving me well here
     
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    what a bizarre team, beat LAC, got wasted by the warriors and Philly, and then beat Denver.
    screams we have players who aren't number 1's but would be great # 2 or 3's on better teams.
     
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    Without the Bronny interest, will be interesting to see how they drum up day 2 interest

     
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    These and Brown would be why you find a way to shed that $7m in a trade(s) if possible
     
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    he was the long-time gm at portland, who hates us irrationally for some reason.

    but the bigger issue is he was the gm in indy when we tried to get PG to force a trade here. he was not happy about it, and rightfully so. and he's kind of a petty guy in general, based on what's been available in the press. i just think he'd help anyone else first. the laker tax is especially real here.

    to be fair, the clips sat everyone against chicago after playing their mandatory nba finals game 7 rotation against us.

    it would be more than 7 million, right?

    dangerous game, too, as the trade has to happen prior to knowing if the buyouts happen. and the league should be watching for tampering stuff there. of course they won't for denver, but if we happened to dump the exact amount of salary that allowed lonzo to walk onto the roster...
     
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    Hello Houston - that team could get really frightening really quick
     
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    Houston will overpay for Fox but as they should gotta go all in. Could put them near OKC
     
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    Could see either Hou or SA. Think Texas makes the most sense.
     
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